Parking brake cable installation 1972 cutlass

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 8, 2018 | 01:35 PM
  #1  
Oldssupreme's Avatar
Thread Starter
Chris
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,287
From: Southern New Jersey
Parking brake cable installation 1972 cutlass

Hi! Can anyone help with advice as to how to install my parking brake cables in my 1972 cutlass? I think I have everything as shown in the assembly manual but I can't get one side or the other to reach the connector with the brake drum cable. What am I doing wrong? Thanks!
Chris
Old Aug 8, 2018 | 01:56 PM
  #2  
frankr442's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 406
Hard to tell without seeing the car. You may have the hooks in the wrong holes?
Did you have cables before or is this a new installation. You may have the wrong cables.
Old Aug 8, 2018 | 02:08 PM
  #3  
Oldssupreme's Avatar
Thread Starter
Chris
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,287
From: Southern New Jersey
Frank hi. I'm using cables from a 71 supreme with the same setup as my 72. Column Auto 350 th350 etc. could the cables be different?
Old Aug 8, 2018 | 02:17 PM
  #4  
Allan R's Avatar
Just an Olds Guy
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 24,528
From: Edmonton, AB. And "I am Can 'eh' jun - eh"
Chris, the cables should be identical.
Start by hooking up the rear cables to the parking brake cables.
Now make sure you have the S hooks properly positioned and thread the cable through them and across to the adjuster.
You can adjust the tension or looseness of the cable by tightening up that assembly.

How much are you out on the connection?

Also make sure your e brake pedal in the car is fully up.
Old Aug 8, 2018 | 03:31 PM
  #5  
Oldssupreme's Avatar
Thread Starter
Chris
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,287
From: Southern New Jersey
Thank you Allen. I will try that tomorrow. I tried to connect the back first so maybe that's the problem. I was about an inch out at the drivers side with everything else connected and the adjustment all the way out. Am I correct that the hole on the cross member is at the top of th cross member almost above the driveshaft? It seems a little different than what the assembly manual shows but maybe not? Could it have anything to do with the fact that the drum brakes are all brand new and I have not adjusted them yet? And I did have the e brake pedal all the way up but it was very loose and didn't feel connected to anything. Thanks!
Chris
Old Aug 8, 2018 | 06:47 PM
  #6  
joe_padavano's Avatar
Old(s) Fart
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 50,840
From: Northern VA
I've always found that it's much easier to connect the cables first, then install the hooks.
Old Aug 8, 2018 | 07:01 PM
  #7  
Oldssupreme's Avatar
Thread Starter
Chris
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,287
From: Southern New Jersey
Ok. Thanks Joe. And it appears from the assembly manual that the two aft located hooks are "s" hooks where as the one attached to the crossmember looks like a squared off "c". I don't have this squared off c but rather another "s". Could that be my problem? Is the "c" similar in size to the "s"? All mine are about the same size.
Thanks!
Chris
Old Aug 9, 2018 | 04:26 AM
  #8  
joe_padavano's Avatar
Old(s) Fart
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 50,840
From: Northern VA
Originally Posted by Oldssupreme
Ok. Thanks Joe. And it appears from the assembly manual that the two aft located hooks are "s" hooks where as the one attached to the crossmember looks like a squared off "c". I don't have this squared off c but rather another "s". Could that be my problem? Is the "c" similar in size to the "s"? All mine are about the same size.
Thanks!
Chris
Yes, that's exactly your problem. The hook on the crossmember is significantly longer than the two "s" hooks.
Old Aug 9, 2018 | 04:32 AM
  #9  
Oldssupreme's Avatar
Thread Starter
Chris
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,287
From: Southern New Jersey
Ok. Well that was easy! Now the hard part of finding that "c" bracket in my pile...
thanks Joe!
chris
Old Aug 9, 2018 | 06:09 AM
  #10  
Allan R's Avatar
Just an Olds Guy
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 24,528
From: Edmonton, AB. And "I am Can 'eh' jun - eh"
Okee dokee, I posted thinking you had all the right hardware. As far as the drum brakes? Nope, I did all new drums at the back and had no problem reconnecting my cables. I also bag and tag everything that comes out of my car, and take pictures of it before hand so I know how it was installed originally.
Old Aug 9, 2018 | 08:06 AM
  #11  
Oldssupreme's Avatar
Thread Starter
Chris
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,287
From: Southern New Jersey
Thanks Allan! Yeah, I put 99% of my parts in small clear glass jars (not a good idea because they can break , and have) or yogurt containers. The jars and yogurt containers were all labeled,
as well as the boxes they were stored in along with a master computer list and printout of where every part was placed... problem was that the jars where I used grease pencils or China markers all wiped off from handling them. That was a hard lesson to learn. All the ones where I used a sharpie were fine. So anyone getting into a new project like this do as Allan says and use baggies. And sometimes I wind up finding a part after I already bought a new one.
Chris
Old Aug 9, 2018 | 09:53 AM
  #12  
joe_padavano's Avatar
Old(s) Fart
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 50,840
From: Northern VA
Here's an idea of the relative sizes of the hooks


Old Aug 9, 2018 | 09:56 AM
  #13  
Oldssupreme's Avatar
Thread Starter
Chris
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,287
From: Southern New Jersey
Yeah ok. There's my extra inch and a half I need! And where are those mickey mouse shaped fasteners used? Thanks so much!
Chris

Last edited by Oldssupreme; Aug 9, 2018 at 10:08 AM.
Old Aug 9, 2018 | 10:04 AM
  #14  
joe_padavano's Avatar
Old(s) Fart
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 50,840
From: Northern VA
Originally Posted by Oldssupreme
Yeah ok. There's my extra inch and a half I need! And where are those locket mouse shaped fasteners used? Thanks so much!
Chris
"Locket mouse"???

I assume you mean the three wire spring clips. Those retain the e-brake cable sheaths to the brackets on the chassis. Note "View B" in the lower RH corner below.


Old Aug 9, 2018 | 10:08 AM
  #15  
Allan R's Avatar
Just an Olds Guy
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 24,528
From: Edmonton, AB. And "I am Can 'eh' jun - eh"
Locket mouse = Mickey Mouse spring clip

These are from my car when I did rear brakes in 2012

EDIT: I only had 2 mickey clips because I didn't do anything with the front cable.
Old Aug 9, 2018 | 10:10 AM
  #16  
joe_padavano's Avatar
Old(s) Fart
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 50,840
From: Northern VA
Originally Posted by Allan R
Locket mouse = Mickey Mouse spring clip
Yeah, I figured the "mouse" part. It was the "locket" that threw me.
Old Aug 9, 2018 | 10:11 AM
  #17  
Oldssupreme's Avatar
Thread Starter
Chris
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,287
From: Southern New Jersey
Gosh darn auto correct 😀
Old Aug 10, 2018 | 04:47 AM
  #18  
Oldssupreme's Avatar
Thread Starter
Chris
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,287
From: Southern New Jersey
So I found my large "c" bracket for the middle of the cable to the crossmember. I forgot that I had it powdercoated so it was in a different box. However I can only find one of the Mickey Mouse spring clips. Perhaps the others broke upon taking them off. I have one more place to look through. If I can't find them does anyone have 2-3 extras?
Thanks!
Chris
Old Aug 10, 2018 | 06:57 AM
  #19  
joe_padavano's Avatar
Old(s) Fart
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 50,840
From: Northern VA
Originally Posted by Oldssupreme
However I can only find one of the Mickey Mouse spring clips.
Somewhere on my property there is a massive pile of all the missing parts and tools I've lost over the years. I suspect there is also a large quantity of mis-matched socks along with them.
Old Aug 10, 2018 | 09:16 AM
  #20  
Oldssupreme's Avatar
Thread Starter
Chris
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,287
From: Southern New Jersey
Ha Joe. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who loses parts despite trying to be organized! So approximately how far down the thread is a good starting point for the nut to be for adjustment? And how do I know that I'm tight enough but not too tight?
Thanks
chris
Old Aug 10, 2018 | 09:38 AM
  #21  
frankr442's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 406
Take up any slack without actually pulling on the rear cables.
Old Aug 10, 2018 | 10:24 AM
  #22  
Allan R's Avatar
Just an Olds Guy
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 24,528
From: Edmonton, AB. And "I am Can 'eh' jun - eh"
Originally Posted by Oldssupreme
Ha Joe. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who loses parts despite trying to be organized! So approximately how far down the thread is a good starting point for the nut to be for adjustment? And how do I know that I'm tight enough but not too tight?
Thanks
chris
When you have the cable installed, it should be snug but not tight. I had my car up on jack stands when I did all this so my process was to tighten the adjuster just enough so there was no drag on the rear wheel. Then apply park brake and see if the wheel was solidly locked when turning forward on the wheel. If it would turn even a bit, it's too loose and more tightening would be required. Keep in mind the park brake isn't meant to be a stopping brake, just for parking.

The process is nicely detailed in your 72 CSM on pages 5-8 to 5-10
Old Aug 10, 2018 | 01:24 PM
  #23  
Oldssupreme's Avatar
Thread Starter
Chris
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,287
From: Southern New Jersey
Thanks guys! And I do this all with the parking brake pedal disengaged?
Chris
Old Aug 10, 2018 | 01:40 PM
  #24  
Allan R's Avatar
Just an Olds Guy
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 24,528
From: Edmonton, AB. And "I am Can 'eh' jun - eh"
Yes. After you install the cable, you then test whether your equalizer needs to be tweaked. Play the tension by eye and feel, then tighten the lock nut on the equalizer. Apply the park brake pedal fully. If the wheel will drag but turn backwards, but locks in forward, it's properly set. As per the CSM instructions. I forgot to ask you if you have the 72 CSM Chris, but I thought you do?
Old Aug 11, 2018 | 08:23 AM
  #25  
Oldssupreme's Avatar
Thread Starter
Chris
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,287
From: Southern New Jersey
Hi Allan! Thank you very much! Yes I do have the CSM. completely neglected to lol at that. I've been focusing so much on the assembly manual. Your instructions are very much appreciated!
Chris
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
don71
Parts Wanted
2
Dec 20, 2018 10:30 AM
sheltonoil
Brakes/Hydraulic Systems
11
May 10, 2017 08:13 PM
69'442
Brakes/Hydraulic Systems
4
Mar 30, 2013 07:12 PM
GoodOldsGuyDougie
Brakes/Hydraulic Systems
7
Nov 22, 2010 08:07 AM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:36 AM.