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Old Feb 10, 2024 | 11:32 PM
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1961 Olds 394 oil type

Looking for some input on brand of oil to use, as well as filter. My ‘61 has 92,000 original miles on it. 394 4bbl carb. I have been using 10w-30 Castrol. Any reason to switch oil weight? Any brands that you recommend for this engine and this mileage? Filter?

thanks for the input.
Old Feb 11, 2024 | 05:59 AM
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The new oils are no longer formulated for flat tappet cams.
They removed a lot of the zinc (ZDDP) content (a good anti wear additive) due to it causing damage to catalytic converters.

These oils are made to protect flat tappet camshafts and still contain the necessary ZDDP for protection.


Valvoline VR1 racing oil is also very good.

You do not likely need a different viscosity unless you have oil pressure issues.
With a worn engine you may pick up some oil pressure with a 10w40 or even a 20w50, but not for any real performance benefit on a stock engine.
Living in MN, I'm not sure if you are running this vehicle in the winter, but thicker oils do not flow well in the cold.
I run the 10w30 VR1 in my 64 394 with 100K miles.

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Old Feb 11, 2024 | 06:15 AM
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I've always had luck running Rotella T4 15W-40 in my Oldsmobiles and I run Wix filters.

Beware that a lot of automotive parts on Amazon are Chinesium and rebranded. I'm done ordering parts from Amazon, from now on it's the auto parts store, or online specialty suppliers (Rock Auto, Summit, etc.) for me.
Old Feb 11, 2024 | 07:12 AM
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There is exactly ZERO reason to change oil weight from what the factory recommends. If you've been using Castrol with no issues, then continued use is unlikely to cause a problem. The cam and lifters have long ago broken in. If zinc levels cause you to lose sleep, then use one of the high-ZDDP oils with the same weight. More viscosity just increases internal friction and HP loss.
Old Feb 11, 2024 | 09:31 AM
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Thank you all for the suggestions. I’m a bit of an overthinker when it comes to the Olds. KISS….keep it simple stupid. No driving in the winter for me here it is stored in the garage until it warms up.
Old Feb 11, 2024 | 10:57 AM
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Shell Rotella T 10W-30 and 15W-40 has 1200 ppm ZDDP. This info is directly from Shell about two months ago.

Joe, I've never heard that ZDDP levels are only important during break-in on flat tappet cams. I thought it was important for continued use and haven't heard anything to the contrary, have you?
Old Feb 11, 2024 | 11:02 AM
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The ZDDP is nice to have in an older motor, but I've run plenty of flat tappet motors on regular low-ZDDP oils with zero issues. The reality is that brand new parts that haven't worn in tend to have localized high spots on the machined surfaces. These can push through the lube film and initiate a metal smear, which is a cascading effect. Once the lifters and lobes are broken in, this is a very low likelihood event. For cars I care about, I do use Amsoil Z-Rod, but again, in 10W-30 or 10W-40 weights, depending on the application. And yes, on well-worn motors with large bearing clearances, I'll use the 10W-40.
Old Oct 1, 2024 | 12:18 AM
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Thought I would continue this thread instead of creating another of similar.

Time to dump the run-in oil and go to regular.
Pretty much a new engine. Fully reconditioned. Bored 30 thou. Pistons to take unleaded/LPG.

Should I stick to what is suggested in the manual or I can you suggest what to go for re our local temps.
The last few years November December January have hit 104 plus, but I don’t drive in those conditions usually. 90-95 is about the limit when I drive the Oldsmobile.







I have added a graph for my local temps.

it’s a lot colder at times in the U.S than Australia.

Thank you.

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Old Oct 1, 2024 | 05:38 AM
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10w30 should be fine in your part of the world.
Old Oct 1, 2024 | 09:29 AM
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Agreed, X2. That's a pretty temperate climate for Australia so I think 10W-30 should be fine.
EDIT: Do you plan to use dino or synthetic?

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Old Oct 1, 2024 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BangScreech4-4-2
Agreed, X2. That's a pretty temperate climate for Australia so I think 10W-30 should be fine.
EDIT: Do you plan to use dino or synthetic?
I was thinking a Premium Mineral Oil but happy for suggestions.
thanks.
Old Oct 1, 2024 | 02:53 PM
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A premium dino oil is a great choice. If you have an owners manual or FSM, I'd go with the viscosity recommended by Olds.
Old Oct 1, 2024 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Sugar Bear
A premium dino oil is a great choice. If you have an owners manual or FSM, I'd go with the viscosity recommended by Olds.
Don't know if I'd go with straight 30 weight.
Old Oct 1, 2024 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BangScreech4-4-2
Don't know if I'd go with straight 30 weight.
Are you saying Olds recommended SAE 30?
If they did recommend it, I agree with you and wouldn't use straight 30 weight.
Old Oct 1, 2024 | 04:48 PM
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Sorry the pic so big.

That is from the manual. We don’t have the cold temps here as you guys do so unsure if it needs to be adjusted to suit this temp.
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