Why so much variation in '70 special order colors?

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Old December 27th, 2017, 09:45 AM
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'70 Special Order color code and Fisher Tag decode

My Fisher Body tag reads:
ST 70 34467 E 165
TR 990 926 99568 B
09C A31

990 is the notch back bench seat in black, but the 926 99568 is throwing me off. 926 99568 has come up for Daytona Yellow(Corvette), but for the life of me I can't understand this color coming up as "--" or "51" or the above code. three codes for one color?...was someone high on paint fumes? There's no consistency at all. Does anyone else have this style code on their car?

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Anyone on this have ideas?
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Old January 10th, 2018, 01:18 PM
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The 926-99568 is the Dupoint factory paint code color. Each division of GM called the color a different name with a different code number for ordering. In 1970 Chevy called that yellow Daytona and it was code 944 special order for Chevelle's. For Oldsmobile's it was code 51 and named Sebring Yellow.
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Keep in mind that the 1970 Cutlass line was built at four different assembly plants, and each used slightly different procedures. In addition, processes change during the year. Olds regularly used "--" on the cowl tag to denote a special paint car - this would flag the fact that the car used special paint color not readily available in the paint booth. Note that in addition to the four "standard" special paint colors that year, there were also RPO codes and prices for special order paint - Y62 for Special Paint - no charge, Y63 for Special Paint - Solid color, Y66 for Special Paint - Two Tone, and Y76 for Special Firemist Paint. These RPO codes could have been colors from other GM divisions, or even non-GM paint colors.

I don't know if the use of "51" instead of "--" corresponds to a particular assembly plant or date, but one possible guess is that it may correspond to a time when Olds was building enough Sebring yellow cars (think Rallye 350 production) that the paint was kept on site. As noted, "51" is the paint code for Daytona/Sebring/Saturn yellow.

The use of manufacturer paint code numbers on the cowl tag may have been a convenience for that particular assembly plant when they needed to go get a non-standard color mixed. Fremont, and to a lesser extent, Linden, did use some unusual codes and digit sequences on their cowl tags.
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Old January 10th, 2018, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Keep in mind that the 1970 Cutlass line was built at four different assembly plants, and each used slightly different procedures. In addition, processes change during the year. Olds regularly used "--" on the cowl tag to denote a special paint car - this would flag the fact that the car used special paint color not readily available in the paint booth. Note that in addition to the four "standard" special paint colors that year, there were also RPO codes and prices for special order paint - Y62 for Special Paint - no charge, Y63 for Special Paint - Solid color, Y66 for Special Paint - Two Tone, and Y76 for Special Firemist Paint. These RPO codes could have been colors from other GM divisions, or even non-GM paint colors.

I don't know if the use of "51" instead of "--" corresponds to a particular assembly plant or date, but one possible guess is that it may correspond to a time when Olds was building enough Sebring yellow cars (think Rallye 350 production) that the paint was kept on site. As noted, "51" is the paint code for Daytona/Sebring/Saturn yellow.

The use of manufacturer paint code numbers on the cowl tag may have been a convenience for that particular assembly plant when they needed to go get a non-standard color mixed. Fremont, and to a lesser extent, Linden, did use some unusual codes and digit sequences on their cowl tags.
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Thanks, Joe...awesome resource as always! The wirry is always that the tag is real with some much funny business in the classic world anymore. This tag is pretty well worn on its mounting place, but it’s interesting the variance in codes.
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Old January 10th, 2018, 05:17 PM
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Only real good part is if you have a non- -“ for a special order and no build sheet you will know your true color
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Old January 10th, 2018, 05:25 PM
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Only real good part is if you have a non- -“ for a special order and no build sheet you will know your true color
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Old January 12th, 2018, 12:44 PM
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My Fremont built 70 442 had the 26 paint code on the cowl tag and the Y62 Special Paint code on the build sheet for the Toro only Viking Blue paint. Interesting that they did it that way since they didn't build Toronados at Fremont so the paint may not have been readily available, although I believe it was a standard color on other GM "A" bodies
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Dug this up from the past. Member(Toledobend) w/same week build on SX has DuPont code vs. (WA, - -, or 51).

https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...aint-code.html
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Just an update. I contacted Kolor Korect and they sent me a sprayout that matches 100% correct. The sad thing is, they want $1500 for it and that don't include the clear. My body guy said this is far to much and said to give him more time to get it right. He said he could do it for under half that but has to spend more time on it.
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