'64 4-4-2 Production ?

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Old Dec 2, 2017 | 05:20 PM
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'64 4-4-2 Production ?

Does anyone know the unit production numbers per body style and production dates for the 1964 4-4-2 ?
I remember riding in a "baby blue" 4 door 4-4-2 with 4 speed and light blue bucket seats......."back in the day". I know they existed in 4 doors.
Over the years I have asked around about where the one I was in went to. Maybe some day I'll find it, maybe not.
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Old Dec 3, 2017 | 06:11 AM
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F85
Model ID Number Body/Style Description Production Total
F85 Standard
64-3027 2-dr Club Coupe 16,298
64-3035 4-dr Station Wagon 4,047
64-3069 4-dr Sedan 12,106
F85 Deluxe
64-3127 2-dr Sports Coupe 6,594
64-3135 4-dr Station Wagon 10,793
64-3169 4-dr Sedan 42,237
F85 Cutlass
64-3227 2-dr Club Coupe 15,440
64-3237 2-dr Holiday Hardtop 36,153
64-3267 2-dr Holiday Hardtop 12,822

Of the above, 2,999 F85's were equipped with the B-09 4-4-2 package:
F85 Standard; 2-dr Club Coupe 148, 4-dr Sedan 3
F85 Deluxe; 4-dr Sedan 7
F85 Cutlass; 2-dr Club Coupe 563, 2-dr Holiday Hardtop 1,842, 2-dr Convertible 436
Old Dec 3, 2017 | 07:44 AM
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4 door & bucket seats.

Originally Posted by OLDSter Ralph
Does anyone know the unit production numbers per body style and production dates for the 1964 4-4-2 ?
I remember riding in a "baby blue" 4 door 4-4-2 with 4 speed and light blue bucket seats......."back in the day". I know they existed in 4 doors.
Over the years I have asked around about where the one I was in went to. Maybe some day I'll find it, maybe not.
RALPH

The most surprising this to me in your post is that the 4 door had bucket seats. I thought that the 1973 Cutlass Salon was the 1st 4 door to offer front bucket seats but perhaps I am mistaken.


Are you sure you are remembering the bucket seats correctly?
Old Dec 3, 2017 | 07:51 AM
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I’ve never seen one and was wondering why anyone would have buckets in a four door unless....could this have been how a police car was configured?
Old Dec 3, 2017 | 08:24 AM
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The most surprising this to me in your post is that the 4 door had bucket seats.
It didn't - at least not from the factory. Never an option from Olds until 1973, as you correctly pointed out.
Old Dec 3, 2017 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by oldsmobiledave
The most surprising this to me in your post is that the 4 door had bucket seats. I thought that the 1973 Cutlass Salon was the 1st 4 door to offer front bucket seats but perhaps I am mistaken.
Are you sure you are remembering the bucket seats correctly?

As with anything, "memory" is subject to error. I was kid in high school at the time. I have some old high school chums I might be able to ask if they remember.
Ronnie Roberts was the son of the owners. They lived on the "east side" of Waterloo, Iowa and I believe it came from Tate Cadillac & Olds. I don't know if it was "ordered". It was a 4 door sedan with the 4-4-2 emblems and no console.
I seem recall thinking it was odd to have bucket seats in a 4 door. I rode "shotgun" once.
This car has intrigued me for many, many years. I'd love to find it, but the odds are against it still existing.
I don't know if there would be a way to do a title search to track it down. Any suggestions ?

Back in 1967 the Waterloo Police Department had an "unmarked" black 4 door with the "Police Pursuit Apprehender package" in a Cutlass with 400 and automatic "on loan" for a couple months. It was FAST ! The police department turned it back in because it was too fast and the old guys couldn't handle it.
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Old Dec 3, 2017 | 12:42 PM
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Ralph, I would think that if you distinctly recall the car as having bucket seats, then the Tate dealership must have done the conversion in order to satisfy a customer request. This seems a much more likely explanation than the factory having done it or you imagining the whole thing.
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It's no big deal to install buckets in a more-door - I did it to the 1968 Vista I used to own. The car was not born with them, however. Of course, the fact that someone installed buckets always begs the question, what other non-original parts (or emblems) were on the car? The four speed WAS factory available in a four door that year.
Old Dec 3, 2017 | 12:55 PM
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It doesn't sound like it is the case here but in those days a GM Exec could get lots of things that were not on the order sheet.
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Originally Posted by redoldsman
It doesn't sound like it is the case here but in those days a GM Exec could get lots of things that were not on the order sheet.
Thanks guys, for the input. It has always made me curious about a 4-4-2, 4 door sedan over the years, never saw another one.
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I’m planning on doing that era-appropriate stripe on mine as well in white over Bahama Blue!

Originally Posted by therobski
Nice discussion thread. As a lot of you guys in this Club know, I'm building my own 64 442, livin the dream I guess Depending where the 2018 Olds Nationals are, mamma and I will be there there!!
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Also, the base and Deluxe F-85s would have had a cloth patterned interior only, correct or no? What upholstery would have been on the 3127 buckets?


Originally Posted by OLDSter Ralph
Does anyone know the unit production numbers per body style and production dates for the 1964 4-4-2 ?
I remember riding in a "baby blue" 4 door 4-4-2 with 4 speed and light blue bucket seats......."back in the day". I know they existed in 4 doors.
Over the years I have asked around about where the one I was in went to. Maybe some day I'll find it, maybe not.
RALPH
Old Apr 2, 2018 | 01:57 AM
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Also, the base and Deluxe F-85s would have had a cloth patterned interior only, correct or no? What upholstery would have been on the 3127 buckets?
Mine's a 3127 and the buckets are vinyl, or whatever Olds called it. No fabric on anything.
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