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All of the Y72 options that I have seen were from the South of the United States. The Y72 option carried a different alternator, different fan clutch, fan shroud, and different pulleys. Hence, not available with W30 or W31 option as indicated in the PIM.
What is interesting is the “EC” radiator was never available through GMPD.
Some parts were only available from the assembly line.
The Y72 option carried a different alternator, different fan clutch, fan shroud, and different pulleys. Hence, not available with W30 or W31 option as indicated in the PIM.
And water pump.
Interesting that Y72 wasn't available with G88 or G92, but, both of those did come with V01 and V02 heavy duty radiators:
As best I can tell there was no damage anywhere else and certainly not the red inner finder. That is not to say it did not just spring a leak for no reason and was replaced. I can hope I find a build sheet besides the cards as that would be 100% documentation. However my understanding is not many cars had a build sheet.
Don't think you'll find a build sheet in the car....don't think anyone has on a '70 W-30 (Lansing)....but who knows. A legit original broadcast card is well accepted as proof by the Olds community.
if the fender was possibly replaced due to a small wreck its possible the original rad was also damaged, then replaced with a suitable one
This has been my same thoughts, except I will speculate a bit more, include the waterpump and the fan clutch too. None of this is the end of the world, of course. This car remains a gem.
Heck ! Don't sweat the small stuff. This car looks to be a gem. An incredible find. You have a Vin that matches the block and trany w/ OW tag. You have all the major components for a W30 and a W27 to boot. It is not uncommon to find some late 69' dates on an early 70' build like yours ( ex. Water Pump)
FInd that Broadcast card ! Most likely under rear carpet or rear seat. I don't how you get any sleep..lol.
I'm excited about this car.
This one was found a couple months ago under the rear carpet passenger side. The funny thing is a penny was found laying next to it. The Penny was dated 1970. Card matches vin and clearly shows W30 option.
FIND THAT CARD !
The anticipation is killing me...
You and me both. Car is on a lift at the moment and we can hardly squeeze inside so taking seats out etc is too hard. I have heard locations such as passenger front carpet front passenger seat back and rear seat. Had not heard about rear passenger carpet. Will try again this weekend
Well as I suspected the original Oklahoma owner who had the car in the barn did have some parts he did not hand over with the car. My friend who knew him from before and brought the car back to Oklahoma City was out there today in his building and found the top radiator support and I think a pulley or two. He thinks the steering wheel is there too but it was so hot today he just could not look all that long. Will show photos as soon as I get the parts. Top support should clear thinks up a little. Folks here should recognize which one it is, I hope because I will not.
Well my friend got back from the panhandle with some parts that should clear things up a little. I think these are original to the car that he took off in 1987. That is when he bought the car. The car came from a very small town in the far north west panhandle of Texas. Trying to locate it. He changed out the original green vista cruiser wheel which is in the garage, my friend is going back to get it. Got too hot to keep looking, and the radio which was jerry rigged. Changing that back. Here is the top core support. I am sure someone can comment on which type this is. Here are two original pulleys as well. I suspect they are correct for this car but someone please correct me if I am wrong.
You now have the correct pulleys and the upper radiator support for your car. That’s great that you have the original units. That fan blade adapter/ spacer is for a different car. Unfortunately, your car has the wrong radiator. It’s more than likely a over the counter radiator through GMPD. Hopefully you can score your broadcast card. You also still need the correct “OR” fan clutch and the correct fan blade. The fan blade you have pictured is not the correct fan blade. Unfortunately, Lansing built “W” cars didn’t have build sheets like LS6 chevelles.
So this radiator support should have a fan shroud then???? If so then the fan shroud I already got is correct olds. I have as high a likelihood of finding the build card as you can have since the interior is untouched but we will see. So pulleys are correct for power steering as well which the car has. Since it is for sure a four core radiator and the only difference is the EC tag over ED, I will plan to leave it as is. The radiator might have been over the counter replaced for a few years in the 70’s but not 1987. This car should remain a day two car I think. How many day two cars can exist really. Damn few of any make or model. They either need major work or total restoration. Already put a different fan clutch in the car because we knew the one I showed was not correct. Did not know about the fan. What is correct? I will change out the 17 year changes that the 1987 Oklahoma owner did such as the crappie steering wheel since the original is there. I will leave the 15 inch wheels since they are 70’s etc. The gauges added I will leave if I can be sure they were 70’s added. The radio looked so crummy now I know again the Oklahoma owner did that so have correct radio ready to go.
I got the correct shift **** but again the Hurst shift **** is clearly a day two change that I clearly remember everyone did in 1970. So I might just keep it on hand and leave the Hurst on.
And on the back mount OEM units are stamped with part #/date.
Edit: My labels are backwards, for example, the date is stamped on the left side of the mount, part# right side in my picture.
The part number for the “ED” radiator was 3017108 and was discontinued in June of 1988. That radiator was used for three model years. And probably available longer through your Delco dealer. Great picture of the fan and clutch
If the radiator was available all the way to 1988 then I bet the Oklahoma guy changed it out and the original is siting in the building.I really need to go look for that as well myself. My friend who is looking for me is just not in to these kinds of details as I am.
Literally a kid on Christmas when documentation is found!! Congrats!!
The 70 build sheets are a bit different; however, here is my Lansing 69 W-30 buildsheet and I have seen at least 1 70 posted on this site (I will see if I can track it down)...
Check the rear seat back and under the passenger carpet... both places I know broadcast cards have been found in Lansing cars.
I know how happy I was to find all of the paperwork on my car and we knew it was legit all along, because we have always owned the car... so, I am relishing in your happiness today!!
I have not had anything exciting to post about for a while. Had to finish getting the car fully operational. It is in my garage this week. The car Just got washed on the exterior today for the first time in 35 years. Still needs a lot of cleaning. Will post pictures when I can. Just so everyone knows, I had said Oklahoma is the only state in the union that has records all the way back to the sixties. So I guessed that maybe this car had the Texas title or some information recorded when the first Oklahoma owner titled it in 1987. So I found DMV in Oklahoma City, it had moved from the capital area and asked for a title search. They got on the computer and immediately gave me the 1987 title I turned in and my registration. I said no no I want the old records. The guy said well that is on microfilm. I said well yeah i know. Well , you have to fill out a form and it may take a while, we just moved. I said YES I don’t care yes yes go ahead. One week later, package shows up. There is the Texas Title front and back from 1979!!!! The name of every owner the car ever had is on the front and back of this title except the first one.Unbelievable. The title is in the third owners name with the listing of the second owner as previous owner. Then on the back it was signed over to the fourth Texas owner. Then on the back also signed over again and passed through to the guy in Oklahoma as well on the back!!! An absolute miracle I kid you not. The License Tag on the title is the one on the back of the car now!! Never got changed. All four Texas owners lived in Follett Texas east of Perryton and all are still living except the third owner. Died a long time ago due to drugs and wrong crowd. I have talked to everyone accept the first one. I know everything that ever happed to this car and everything that was ever done. Every detail!! Will go through it all as I can after I talk to the first guy and get some photos. They all knew the W27 aluminum rear was rare even in the 1970’s and was in the car from day one. David
Just re-read your complete thread. So cool. I was working in Perryton building some airport hangers back then. If I had seen that car back then....Man, what a find.
I did pick up a 73 Buick Regal for $100 that was sitting behind an old building beside the Pizza Hut that we had lunch at a few times. Good times.
Looking forward to the updates you lucky dog you.
The fourth owner bought the car out of Booker which is just down the road from Follett and paid $75.00 for the car around 1978. Yes you read that right. I will go into extreme detail when I finish the full time line with the first owner. Few things I need to clear up.
Ah true blue just saw you are from Marble Falls eh? Know exactly where it is and been through there several times. If you were in Perryton then you know why this car’s body is still 100% perfect and rust free.
Thanks for the updates. That is very cool that you were able to get so much past information. What a cool car. Non air. No power brakes. W-27 Dual Gate car. Awesome. Awesome. Awesome.
PS: Quick question about the "Z" on the body tag. Is the Z present on all factory W-27 cars?
This came up earlier in my thread. I asked about the Z and no one has ever been able to decipher what it means. I thought W27 as well but apparently unknown, even after all these years. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
This came up earlier in my thread. I asked about the Z and no one has ever been able to decipher what it means. I thought W27 as well but apparently unknown, even after all these years. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
The Z hasn't been decoded I don't believe and it was used across all GM brands if I'm not mistaken.
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