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Old Dec 20, 2022 | 06:58 PM
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Widening Stock Wheels? Question

Just putting this out here, has anyone here ever had factory wheels widened? Who is recommended? Would like to make 15x8 to 15x10. Thanks
Old Dec 20, 2022 | 07:13 PM
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What wheels do you want to widen? Steelies, SS I, SS II?
Old Dec 20, 2022 | 07:31 PM
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Talk to member Funkwagon455.
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Old Dec 21, 2022 | 04:49 AM
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I know it can be done. Good luck.
Old Dec 21, 2022 | 06:46 AM
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I’m also curious which factory 15x8 wheels you’re wanting to widen. Yes most steel (and aluminum) factory wheels can be widened. The easiest way is to cut the center and simply reinsert into a hoop of preference. Of course this needs to be done minding the runout to remain true. Some wheel builders will mate two hoop halves to accomplish the desired width. I had inquired with Stockton wheel about doing tens and they wanted to cut eights to make tens. I think this is rather wasteful and adds points of joint failure though personally. If you’re doing a typical Rally Olds wheel, the drop inside the hoop is not typical and this is why it can be a challenge merely sourcing the parts. There used to be several vendors that offered the service, but I think the wave trend of big aftermarket wheels on old cars has kind of killed the demand. Stockton is still around, Marsh Racing may still do it, McWheels in Iowa seems to be MIA. Good luck






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Old Dec 21, 2022 | 12:19 PM
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I have a set of 84 Hurst Olds Chrome 15' wheels on my 72, I am looking to make the rear two 15x10s and have the chrome redone.
Old Dec 21, 2022 | 12:22 PM
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BTW, Funkwagon455, those chrome rally wheels are deadsexy, hahahaha
Old Dec 21, 2022 | 04:05 PM
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When I had mine done I bought new rim shells from Speedway for like 75 bucks. The machine shop cut the center out of my wheels and welded the new ones in.
Old Dec 21, 2022 | 05:45 PM
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BTW, Funkwagon455, those chrome rally wheels are deadsexy, hahahaha
Thank you sir, that was exactly my intention!😄
Old Dec 21, 2022 | 08:17 PM
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Mr Marsh died young. the equipment and property was sold at auction . Marsh Racing wheel is no longer.
Old Dec 22, 2022 | 05:58 AM
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Mr Marsh died young. the equipment and property was sold at auction . Marsh Racing wheel is no longer.
Thank you, I was not aware. That is terrible.🙁
Old Dec 22, 2022 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by oldsmoboogie
When I had mine done I bought new rim shells from Speedway for like 75 bucks. The machine shop cut the center out of my wheels and welded the new ones in.
Do you have a part number? I'm still looking for a source for wheel rims with the correct ID to accommodate the SSII/III centers. I've got a stash of 14x7 bolt-in center wheels that really want to be made into 15" wheels.
Old Dec 22, 2022 | 07:39 AM
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Speedway?

Originally Posted by oldsmoboogie
When I had mine done I bought new rim shells from Speedway for like 75 bucks. The machine shop cut the center out of my wheels and welded the new ones in.
Searched Speedway Can not find them .I too would like the part number. Thank you
Old Dec 22, 2022 | 09:15 AM
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Searched Speedway Can not find them .I too would like the part number. Thank you
I ran into this years ago, the drop in the Speedway shell is not correct for our Olds centers. I just got blindly lucky with my Hurst replicas as a previous builder had three tens from his business that survived a fire. That is why I had previously mentioned the difficulty in acquiring the pieces to accomplish the conversion. I do believe that there is a DOT certified wheel shell producer that does this, but alas they are not going to go to the trouble for 2-6 units. I feel you’d need to buy a pallet of one specified size to justify the order.
Old Dec 22, 2022 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Funkwagon455
I ran into this years ago, the drop in the Speedway shell is not correct for our Olds centers. I just got blindly lucky with my Hurst replicas as a previous builder had three tens from his business that survived a fire. That is why I had previously mentioned the difficulty in acquiring the pieces to accomplish the conversion. I do believe that there is a DOT certified wheel shell producer that does this, but alas they are not going to go to the trouble for 2-6 units. I feel you’d need to buy a pallet of one specified size to justify the order.
Do you know the name of the producer? I willing to buy a pallet of 10's and 8's
Old Dec 22, 2022 | 10:19 AM
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Do you know the name of the producer? I willing to buy a pallet of 10's and 8's
I would probably go in on such a deal.
Old Dec 22, 2022 | 10:39 AM
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Please standby while my mind’s 256 processor does that annoying “whirllygig” thing..🤪
Old Dec 22, 2022 | 11:54 AM
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Maybe we should start a thread for a group buy for widened wheels. We could likely get enough people on board to make it feasible.
Old Dec 22, 2022 | 12:06 PM
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Might have been U.S. Wheel?
https://www.uswheel.com
Old Dec 22, 2022 | 12:59 PM
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I might be interested in a couple 15x10. I'll watch this thread in case it moves to potential group buy.
So we need to find DOT hoops as well as a company that might do the work, as it may not be the same provider?
Old Dec 22, 2022 | 01:09 PM
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Many years ago I had both a pair of 15X8 and 15X10 wheels made up in Portland Oregon. They cut the centers out of some 1968-69 14x6 wheels and put them in new hoops. I'll see if I can remember the name of the company and if they are still in business.
Old Dec 22, 2022 | 05:36 PM
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Also interested in at least 2x10" and 2x8"
Old Dec 26, 2022 | 06:09 PM
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Count me in on four 8".
Old Dec 27, 2022 | 07:12 AM
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Plenty of interest. Now all we need is a point of contact for a supplier.
Old Dec 27, 2022 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 2blu442
Many years ago I had both a pair of 15X8 and 15X10 wheels made up in Portland Oregon. They cut the centers out of some 1968-69 14x6 wheels and put them in new hoops. I'll see if I can remember the name of the company and if they are still in business.
That may have been Specialty Wheel.
Old Dec 27, 2022 | 10:42 AM
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That may have been Specialty Wheel.
Thank you Patton, If my memory serves correctly this was where I had sourced my 3 hoops. (Maybe on your advice).😉 If so, I don’t believe that he does them anymore but he would be able to validate my suggestion of US Wheel as a source for hoops in larger quantities. I remember that he had given me a source for future projects. They’re focus is now wire wheels.
Old Dec 27, 2022 | 11:51 AM
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As previously mentioned by Funkwagon455, I would try Stockton. They were the only place I found that would rehoop SSII centers, or chrome existing ones. In 2016 they charged $385 to rehoop an SSII center in chrome and $355 to provide a custom chrome wheel size with their own centers.

Obviously they aren't cheap but "cheap" and "California" have never been uttered in the same sentence anyway....lol

http://www.stocktonwheel.com/

http://www.stocktonwheel.com/pdfs/customize_wheel.pdf

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