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Yes but only on my Olds or other classic muscle cars.
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Yes but only on my truck or Suv.
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2.04%
No they look old and outdated on anything.
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I don't really care.
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Do like raised white letters on your tires?

Old Oct 14, 2016 | 08:23 AM
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Do like raised white letters on your tires?

Do you like the look of RWL on your Olds?

How about your truck or SUV?
Old Oct 14, 2016 | 09:21 AM
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Its a personal choice, I like period correct tire brands if one does it.
Old Oct 14, 2016 | 09:26 AM
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I do like the rwl not the outline wl. Poll should have a yes on my truck and muscle car option instead of just either or.

I do not car for rwl on econo or commuter cars.

On one forum a guy whose UN was Tommy commented that my truck looked like a little kids truck cuz it had rwl tires. I thought it was ironic that he made this comment w UN= tommy. Lol
Old Oct 14, 2016 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by RetroRanger
I do like the rwl not the outline wl. Poll should have a yes on my truck and muscle car option instead of just either or.

I do not car for rwl on econo or commuter cars.

On one forum a guy whose UN was Tommy commented that my truck looked like a little kids truck cuz it had rwl tires. I thought it was ironic that he made this comment w UN= tommy. Lol
Yea, I agree about the poll choice(s) I made. I could have done better on that. This is the second poll I've attemped, both kinda...needed more improvement. Personally I like them on my Olds. I don't like them on my truck, and as you said they would stink on a compact econo car. Never thought of that option.
Old Oct 14, 2016 | 09:42 AM
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Original bias ply RWL tires yes, and only on cars that had them originally. Any other RWL....NO. RWL Coopers, BFG, Mastercraft, etc all look like crap.
Old Oct 14, 2016 | 11:01 AM
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I like redlines. Unfortunately, they're not correct for my car.
Old Oct 14, 2016 | 11:56 AM
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For a classic Olds (or any other contemporary American cars), it has to be white sidewalls.
Rwl belongs on proper off road tires on an off road vehicle.

Just my opinion which is of course, right on the money!.

Roger.
Old Oct 14, 2016 | 12:12 PM
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Guess what I like.

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Old Oct 14, 2016 | 01:00 PM
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BFG MTs hard to argue w those.

I'll add on my late model muscle car I like the black walls. And as 69rag said I do like the redlines too.

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Old Oct 14, 2016 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by '69442ragtop
I like redlines. Unfortunately, they're not correct for my car.
Make that two!
Old Oct 14, 2016 | 02:19 PM
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Muscle cars and pick-ups for raised white letters. The work truck is a 99 Chevy 1 ton, gun metal grey, and hers is a 07 trailblazer, white. Both have black wall tires on them. I can't vote in the poll.
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Old Oct 14, 2016 | 02:30 PM
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WW but then I am biased but not bias ply.


Old Oct 14, 2016 | 05:30 PM
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Pure opinion type poll! But some cars and trucks yes on RWL. White walls look great on the rear drive luxury cars. And some that have black walls from the factory look fine also.










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Old Oct 14, 2016 | 05:54 PM
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I likes Wide White Walls with curb feelers!
Old Oct 14, 2016 | 06:47 PM
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Depends on the car, muscle i like raised white letters, pickup trucks, raised white letters. I dont care for the outline letters much. Most muscle cars and trucks look good with black walls, I dont care for white walls period, redline tires, has to be the right car. BFG TA Radials look good, used them for a long time, but switched to Cooper Cobras long ago, i get alot better mileage out of them. As for the poll, i vote yes, raised white letters on muscle cars and pickup.
And on another note, no shiney tires for me.
Old Oct 14, 2016 | 08:28 PM
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Rwl are over rated. It's so over done. Along with cragars. I do the back wall look on the cutlass and the Pontiac bonneville. I'm cool with white walls or vouges on the right car with the right wheels like cragar 30 spokes on an old caddillac.
Old Oct 15, 2016 | 06:16 AM
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This is do using Testers model paint with a 1/4" brush and 2 hours of your time for 4

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Old Oct 15, 2016 | 10:56 AM
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Mine used to look like that when I didn't clean them in a long time...
Old Oct 15, 2016 | 11:33 AM
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I saw some red lettered tires on a new GTO or similar Pontiac, maybes that how they did it?

I get the raised brown letters if I don't clean mine!
Old Oct 16, 2016 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 1968_Post
Make that two!
Redlines were available for Cutlass/442 through 69. White stripes were still available later.
Old Oct 16, 2016 | 09:39 AM
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RWL for me. Love the look of BFG Radial TA's on all chrome SS1s in either 15" or 18"

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Old Oct 16, 2016 | 10:08 AM
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What size can you get the RWL BFG's in 18's? The 245/55R18's that I considered for the Challenger were black sidewall.
Old Oct 16, 2016 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by olds 307 and 403
What size can you get the RWL BFG's in 18's? The 245/55R18's that I considered for the Challenger were black sidewall.
I made a set of 255/45/18 Nitto 555 fronts and 305/45/18 Nitto Drag Radials rear into BFG RWL "appearing" tires...

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Old Oct 16, 2016 | 11:30 AM
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Old Oct 16, 2016 | 01:40 PM
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Nice Joe, you oughtta send a pic to BFG too.
Old Oct 16, 2016 | 02:38 PM
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A person could paint the Radial T/A spec, maybe I will for the next set of tires for the Challenger. Not sure why they skipped the RWL's.
Old Oct 16, 2016 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RetroRanger
Nice Joe, you oughtta send a pic to BFG too.
they probably wouldn't like their letters on a Nitto tire haha! BTW this is a kit sold by this place:

http://tredwear.com/

The kit I got was the 1" BFG letters. They sell the glue with the kit. In my opinion placement, spacing, and tire size is very important for these to look right. I had a 15" real BFG RWL tire to use as a template.
Old Oct 16, 2016 | 02:55 PM
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This stuff is designed for tires....

http://www.rangerpaint.com/
Old Oct 16, 2016 | 03:46 PM
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I used to paint on the white letters:



This is a 275 60 15 BFG Drag Radial about 15 years ago when I still had 15s

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Here's the Nitto's with their actual letters painted on

Problem is you have to touch up the letters every 2 or 3 weeks or they start to turn brown

These glue on letters are permanent and end up just like "real" RWL. I clean them with SOS pads just like I do the RWLs on the Cutlass. They have been on for about a year and 1,000+ miles. It's a 10 hour project to get them on and do it right but once they are on you are done.

Painting on the RWL never ends. Plus you are limited to where the blacked out letters are on the tires

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Old Oct 16, 2016 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 71 OLDS
I used to paint on the white letters:



This is a 275 60 15 BFG Drag Radial about 15 years ago when I still had 15s



Here's the Nitto's with their actual letters painted on

Problem is you have to touch up the letters every 2 or 3 weeks or they start to turn brown

These glue on letters are permanent and end up just like "real" RWL. I clean them with SOS pads just like I do the RWLs on the Cutlass. They have been on for about a year and 1,000+ miles. It's a 10 hour project to get them on and do it right but once they are on you are done.

Painting on the RWL never ends. Plus you are limited to where the blacked out letters are on the tires
The tire makers have to place a layer between the black rubber and the white letters to prevent a migration of the carbon black to the white rubber.

What brand of tire paint were you using?
Old Oct 16, 2016 | 06:30 PM
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I just like black walls better. I might add im not a fan of cragars but my dad and i chose this wheel as we wanted a nod to the lowriders of the 70's which used cragars but we wanted the feel of a muscle car cruiser. Pretty good in between but on muscle cars im not a fan of them for the most part. The blackwall was a mutual choice.






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Old Oct 16, 2016 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Smallhurst
The tire makers have to place a layer between the black rubber and the white letters to prevent a migration of the carbon black to the white rubber.

What brand of tire paint were you using?
That's true I only used the tire markers over the years - never that Ranger paint. I was considering trying it before I went with the Tredwear letters so I can't speak to whether or not the Ranger paint would stay white/last longer than the markers but it's sounds like from the reviews and info on it, it probably would.
Old Oct 17, 2016 | 04:16 AM
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Old Oct 18, 2016 | 07:03 AM
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I have blackwalls my on my Olds. Generally, the B/C bodies don't look good with RWL. It's fine on a Cutlass or truck though. My truck had RWLs on it.

I didn't know you could get tire paint. I've seen the white markers at the auto parts store. I always thought the yellow and red letter tires I saw were manufactured that way.
Old Oct 18, 2016 | 03:51 PM
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76 442 came new with white letter. Has BFGs white letter out.
67 Cutlass came new with white wall. Has BFGs black wall out.
83 Dodge W-150 came new with white wall. Has BFGs white letter out.
96 Silverado 3500 came new with black walls. Has Uniroyal black wall.
I like white walls too.
Old Oct 19, 2016 | 07:49 AM
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On "vintage" muscle cars (or little brothers w/ 6-cyls under the hood), RWL FTW!


On "vintage" luxury / large cars: White-Walls


On "modern" muscle (heck, CARS for that matter): whatever the factory provided, in almost all cases that I can think of it'd be black walls.


On trucks: Whatever the suspension/tire/wheel combo suggests; Raised for off-roading - BW or RWL, lowered "sport trucks" should get black walls.


I did have a set of RWL tires (BFG Radial T/As IIRC) on my '69 Toronado, they were a +0 size (lower profile / wider width to keep the same OD and give a meatier stance), they looked pretty good. But this was back in the '80s when RWLs implied "performance" more-so than today.


One modern trend in wheel styles that make me want to vomit is the "murdered-out" wheel look with flat-black rims that blend into the black wall tires and makes it look like the car is rolling on plain mono-block black disks. Either use a wheel with a chrome / metal rim, red pinstripe, chrome lug nuts, or something to make it look like the wheel and tire are two different objects.

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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 02:37 PM
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I like the RWL on all 2 door rear wheel drive Oldsmobile cars up until the mid-late 80's myself. BFG's or Mickey Thompson's are my choice. The others just don't look as good on the cutlass lines up to 88. Such as Mastercraft, cooper cobra's, those are for the chebby guys.
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