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Old July 5th, 2013, 09:47 AM
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How much does my engine weigh?

I'm trying to figure out how heavy-duty I need to go for an engine stand for a 257ci straight 8. I don't want to pay for a 2000 lb. rated stand if a 1000 lb rated stand will do the job. Also, recommendations on what stand to buy, along with reasons, would be very much appreciated.
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Old July 5th, 2013, 10:04 AM
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I just bought one at the local auto parts store when I redid my 455. It seems to work fine. I've had the old block sitting on it for over a year in my garage and it hasn't given me any trouble.

Using the SWAG method I would say that your old straight 8 is quite heavy. I would buy the good engine stand, especially if it only costs about $25 or $50 more.
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Old July 5th, 2013, 11:14 AM
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Get the heavier stand - it will reach farther and be more stable.

Also, these things tend to be "optimistically" rated - the 1,000 pound stand may hold 1,000 pounds, but it may make you very nervous when it does.

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Originally Posted by MDchanic
Get the heavier stand - it will reach farther and be more stable.

Also, these things tend to be "optimistically" rated - the 1,000 pound stand may hold 1,000 pounds, but it may make you very nervous when it does.

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x2 I sh$& caned my Harbor Freight unit because it wanted to fall on it's face when introduced to the Olds, had no problems with it on a SBC , there is that much difference.......Tedd.
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My Harbor Freight one is OK for my 330, but I put a 2x4 on the crossbar to the bottom of the oil pan.

I'll feel better when I put my 60* V6 on it, after the 330 is in the car.

If I were you, I'd pay more for the higher rated stand. A straight 8's weight is one thing, but that sucker is LONG!!
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Old July 5th, 2013, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MDchanic
Get the heavier stand - it will reach farther and be more stable.

Also, these things tend to be "optimistically" rated - the 1,000 pound stand may hold 1,000 pounds, but it may make you very nervous when it does.

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x3 there's no substitute for peace-of-mind. don't cheap-out on tools!


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Old July 6th, 2013, 01:31 AM
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this site gives the weight of an OLDS straight 8 as 614 lbs...
http://fixrambler.com/engineweightchart.txt
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Old July 6th, 2013, 03:53 AM
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The length is the issue if you support it only at the bell housing surface. Even with a V8 short block, I support the front with a T shaped brace going from the engine down to both legs of the stand. I also use the heavier 2000 lb. rated stand.
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Old January 12th, 2014, 11:42 PM
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Smile Engine Stands

I have modified cheaper engine stands bracing the upright with some similar width square tubing. This will stiffen up the vertical well. I also added a cross piece to the front end making it into a four wheel stand. You can buy suitable wheels for the front at harbor freight. This is if you have access to a welder etc. It supports my 455 just fine. As for the straight 8's I'd almost build something that would also capture the front end of the motor too. These engines are so long that it puts quite a bending moment on the upright even if it is braced. These old blocks are quite thick and that makes them heavy. I would not wedge a 2x4 underneath the front of the engine as this could pop out There's several ways to approach these types of problems they just need a little thinking is all.
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Old January 13th, 2014, 04:59 AM
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You would appreciate the heavier rated stand. Not only do you need to account for the weight of the engine but also the force you will exert on it as you break loose bolts. A 200# man at the end of a large ratchet or wrench quite an extra load. Love the woodie in your Avatar. Great looking car!
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I took a 455 out once and the cheap engine hoist almost fell over .... until I made training wheels for it that is
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The old straight 8 & 6's, along with the early Olds V8's are very heavy.. I have been told by a friend of mine that is well versed on older Oldsmobile's, that the difference in weight between the '78 403 and 2004R that I used in my '49 , compared to the 303 and hydro is 550 lbs.. Bill
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