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Old June 27th, 2022 | 04:45 AM
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1948 6 Volt Issues

Hello,

Trying to get all my lights working on the 48. I still have the 6 volt system. Do I need 6 volt bulbs for parking and tail/brake lights?

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Old June 27th, 2022 | 05:56 AM
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Old June 27th, 2022 | 05:21 PM
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And everything else that is wire to the 6 volt system. Tedd
Old June 28th, 2022 | 06:22 AM
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For the life of me I cannot figure out why I have taillights both LH/RH.

Turn signals and brake light drivers side, however no turn signal or brake on passenger side.

Driving me nutzzzzzz
Old June 28th, 2022 | 07:46 AM
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Chase it all wires with a multi-miter and see where the juice stops or if it is even starting. Check all the grounds if you haven't done so, also the bulb holders for corrosion even though it looks good. I've been where you are not too long ago, turned out to be the ground on the tail light bezels even though they were tight....Tedd
Old June 28th, 2022 | 08:11 AM
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The taillight lamps have 2 filaments, one for the taillights and one for brake and directionals. Sounds like you have a bad bulb or a bad connection for the second filament.
Old June 28th, 2022 | 09:15 AM
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If I have tail lights then can I assume I have full power to that bulb socket?

Old June 28th, 2022 | 09:29 AM
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If I have tail lights then can I assume I have full power to that bulb socket?
No because it's a separate circuit, the taillights come on via headlight switch, you can assume the ground side is ok though. The brake and directionals are routed through the directional switch. What you need to do is first check the bulb to ensure both filaments are intact, and second check for voltage at the socket with the brake pedal depressed and then with the directional selected with the key on.
Old June 28th, 2022 | 09:54 AM
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I failed to mention that the Drivers Side front signal works......just not the rear......

Old June 28th, 2022 | 10:12 AM
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Rule out a bad filament in a two filament bulb by putting a bulb that is known to be good (not just new) in the socket that doesn't work properly.

Good luck!!!
Old June 29th, 2022 | 09:19 AM
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Most of the time is a poor ground issue.

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Old June 29th, 2022 | 09:26 AM
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I spent way too much time on it yesterday. Even thought of selling it.

My 6 volt bulbs will be here today. One last chance....
Old June 29th, 2022 | 09:51 AM
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You'll never be able to sell it with lights that don't work! Walk away, take a break it's supposed to be a hobby/fun.

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Old June 29th, 2022 | 10:01 AM
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Most of the time is a poor ground issue.

Bob
If it were a ground issue the taillights would not work either.

Originally Posted by 57J2Olds
I spent way too much time on it yesterday. Even thought of selling it.

My 6 volt bulbs will be here today. One last chance....
Have you checked the voltages or inspected the bulb?
Old June 29th, 2022 | 10:29 AM
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I have new 6 volt bulbs arriving today.
Old June 29th, 2022 | 10:30 AM
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This is what I'm working on......


Old June 29th, 2022 | 12:18 PM
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Looks original and all there.
Old June 29th, 2022 | 12:47 PM
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Thanks....just waiting for the mailman......6 v bulbs are in his truck,,,,
Old June 29th, 2022 | 01:03 PM
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Must be an old mail truck then...
Old June 29th, 2022 | 01:04 PM
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Is the Oldsmobile positive ground?
Old June 29th, 2022 | 02:35 PM
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So here is the latest......

I had 2 factory wires on the passenger side rear. I thought one was for brake and one was for running and turn.

However I found a 3rd (Newer wire) that was back there and it was for my turn. I ended up connecting it to the factory wire and all lights now work.

I think it was added when the previous owner added the turn signal lever.

I put in new 6V bulbs and they all work. Not 100% sure what I did, however they work.

NOW - New issue.

Front parking lights. Passenger side does not work, however does work when turn signal is on.

It's a single wire as well......

I need to walk away for a while.

Positive Ground.
Old July 1st, 2022 | 09:32 PM
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Tail and turn signal lights

Put a little silicone grease in the bulb sockets and bulb bases in big and little bulbs.

This prevents rust and corrosion which prevents light issues. As they use to say - a little dab will do you.

A NEW battery post cleaner can be used to clean corroded contacts and inner shell for big bulbs.

Also use grease on headlight connection parts to help prevent dim lights.

You can carefully disassemble and clean the headlights switch then grease and reassemble.
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This works over a large number years and venders before and after 1948.

Ron
Old July 2nd, 2022 | 08:50 AM
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I think I see what's going on here.
Not all 1948 Oldsmobiles were equipped with turn signals from the factory. In fact, they did not become standard until 1952.
Turn signals were an option, and offered as a dealer installation package as early as 1941.
Various aftermarket turn signal switch kits were also offered.
Does the turn signal switch clamp on to the column? Or is it built in?

BTW the system is not positive ground. Positive ground was only found in some Fords and Mopar's.

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Old July 2nd, 2022 | 06:13 PM
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Generally, or quite often, if a non activated light comes on when something else is turned on you have a bad ground back feeding to that light.... You still need to run the wires in question with a multi meter... Tedd
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^^^^^^^^^^^^Agree
Old July 5th, 2022 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Charlie Jones
I think I see what's going on here.
Not all 1948 Oldsmobiles were equipped with turn signals from the factory. In fact, they did not become standard until 1952.
Turn signals were an option, and offered as a dealer installation package as early as 1941.
Various aftermarket turn signal switch kits were also offered.
Does the turn signal switch clamp on to the column? Or is it built in?

BTW the system is not positive ground. Positive ground was only found in some Fords and Mopar's.

Yes - The turn signal switch mounts to the steering column. Looks NON-OEM.

It's odd to me that I have a parking lamp that works and a turn signal that does not from the same socket with only 1 wire going to it.

Maybe the headlight switch is taking a dump?

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Old July 5th, 2022 | 02:21 PM
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This may be close to how it's wired up for single filament front lamps. Disregard the ammeter as it may be getting power somewhere else.
Old July 5th, 2022 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BobsFiftyEight
Most of the time is a poor ground issue.

Bob
X2, double and triple check!!
Old July 5th, 2022 | 08:08 PM
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Try running a ground directly to the body of the turn signal switch. My friend just had a similar problem with an aftermarket turn signal switch, the added ground made it work.

Good luck!!!
Old July 6th, 2022 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Sugar Bear
Try running a ground directly to the body of the turn signal switch. My friend just had a similar problem with an aftermarket turn signal switch, the added ground made it work.

Good luck!!!
Thanks...I'll try it tonight.
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