'71 M20 from Nova in '70 442?

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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 10:52 AM
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'71 M20 from Nova in '70 442?

This should be an easy one for a gearbox guru -- I have a '70 W30 4-speed car (now has TH400). Over the years I picked up a completely rebuilt Muncie 4-speed, decodes as a '71 M20 from a Nova.

Any issues with using it behind a 455? I have bellhousing/flywheel and all the 4-speed parts. What about cross-member and driveshaft (including yokes)?

Thanks, Steve

PS: Is this trans likely to offer more value to a Nova fan, and I could find another for my 442?
Old Jun 25, 2013 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by halfmoontrail
This should be an easy one for a gearbox guru -- I have a '70 W30 4-speed car (now has TH400). Over the years I picked up a completely rebuilt Muncie 4-speed, decodes as a '71 M20 from a Nova.

Any issues with using it behind a 455? I have bellhousing/flywheel and all the 4-speed parts. What about cross-member and driveshaft (including yokes)?

Thanks, Steve

PS: Is this trans likely to offer more value to a Nova fan, and I could find another for my 442?
The wide ratio M20 will bolt right in. Just get a clutch disk to match the splines (I don't remember when GM made the switch from 10 splines to 26 on the input shaft). Tailhousing and output shaft are the same as an Olds trans. Of course, you'll need the correct driveshaft and yoke for a four speed. The M22 uses the larger TH400 yoke, but the M20 and M21 use the same yoke as a TH350.
Old Jun 25, 2013 | 03:01 PM
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Thanks, Joe - I appreciate it.
Steve
Old Jun 25, 2013 | 04:27 PM
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What rear end gear ratio are you running? You shouldn't run much lower (numerically higher) than 3.55's with an M20. I'm pretty sure W30's ran an M21 or M22 as the standard tranny.

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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 05:53 PM
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you will need a longer driveshaft but the yoke is the same as the 400. All 71 and newer muncies went to the bigger 400 style output shaft.
Old Jul 3, 2013 | 05:39 PM
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If looking for originality, the M-20 (wide ratio) was not available in the '70 442 or W-30, only the M-21 (close ratio) & standard HD 3-speed manual.

An exception - the factory did install the M-20 in 442's with A/C, even though according to the factory brochure A/C was not available in a manual trans 442 - due to the M-21 trans not being available with a ratio lower (numerically) than 3.42 & A/C cars available with no higher (numerically) than a 3.23 ratio rear axle.
Old Jul 3, 2013 | 09:08 PM
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Fyi

Originally Posted by allyolds68
What rear end gear ratio are you running? You shouldn't run much lower (numerically higher) than 3.55's with an M20. I'm pretty sure W30's ran an M21 or M22 as the standard tranny.
In 1972 the W-30 came with 3.42 gears standard while 3.73s were optional with either the T400 or the M-20. My 4 speed 1972 W-30 is so equipped.
Old Jul 3, 2013 | 09:54 PM
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I had a 69 Cutlass once with a 350 M20 and 3:08 gears. Was very long legged
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