67 Toronado Flasher

Old Jul 23, 2013 | 07:37 AM
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67 Toronado Flasher

I know some cars have flasher for the turn signals, and another one for the emergency flasher. Does the Toronado just have one? I cannot find two.
My brake lights work, and when I press the emergency flasher button, everything works, but my indicators don’t work? Strange
Old Jul 23, 2013 | 08:16 AM
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Looks like it should be hanging by two brown wires, probably under the left side of the dash.

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Old Jul 23, 2013 | 08:27 AM
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Thanks. What would it be called? In the book I can only see flasher, and same at Rock Auto?
That’s the one the plugs into the fuse box.
Old Jul 23, 2013 | 09:26 AM
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Your car should have two flashers.

Technically, the 4-way flasher is designed to flash up to about 8 bulbs, and to flash at the same speed no matter what, while the signal flasher is designed to flash the number of bulbs you actually have in your signals (1 up front and 2 in back, I think), and to flash differently if the wrong number of bulbs is flashing (because of a bulb burned out), but in practice a flasher is pretty much a flasher.
I have no doubt that you can find a 2-pin flasher that will work at any auto parts store at any time, but I'm not sure whether you could find the exact right one that GM specified.

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Old Jul 24, 2013 | 06:01 AM
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Thanks for the help. Making some progress. There wasn’t a second flasher in there, so got one. Now the rear lights flash, but all of them flash at the same time. If I turn the stalk to the left, they all flash, stalk to right, they all flash.

The front lights work fine…left..right.
I did manage to get a NOS indicator flasher on ebay last night. Hopefully that will fix the problem. At least I can drive the car. When I bought the car a few months ago, neither the brake nor inidicator lights worked. I did find two flashers in the door, but I thought the guy was just testing out to see what works. He just had a stroke, and had alzheimers, so the PO said he forgot what the flashers were for. They did not look like the NOS I got. Just the $3 ones you get at the auto store.

This being a tilt/ travel, I could not get a switch for the column. Installed a regular column, and the brake lights works. Hopefully the NOS flasher will fix the rear lights problem.
Anything else it could be?
Old Jul 24, 2013 | 08:04 PM
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Now the rear lights flash, but all of them flash at the same time.
If I turn the stalk to the left, they all flash, stalk to right, they all flash.
The front lights work fine…left..right.
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I did manage to get a NOS indicator flasher on ebay last night. Hopefully that will fix the problem.
I did find two flashers in the door, but I thought the guy was just testing out to see what works. He just had a stroke, and had alzheimers, so the PO said he forgot what the flashers were for.
Ha Ha. You got screwed by an old guy.

He "didn't remember" why they were there... Riiiiiiiight...

He was doing exactly the same thing you are doing: He was randomly buying and plugging in flashers, hoping that would solve a problem that he didn't understand.
When he couldn't get it fixed, he unplugged the signal flasher, then, when it came time to sell, told you that "the flasher must be bad," and "Those? I don't remember how they got there..."

Smooth. He must have been a terror when he was younger.


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Hopefully the NOS flasher will fix the rear lights problem.
Anything else it could be?
Nope. A new flasher will not solve this problem, as the PO himself discovered.

It is either a bad signal light switch, or a short between the left and right rear signal wires (possibly at one of the plugs).
There is a chance that the short is being caused by one of the rear light bulbs being inserted wrong, but I doubt it.

I'd pull all the bulbs, unplug the column, and test the rear signal wires to see if they connect to each other, to narrow down the problem.
Then, clean the sockets, install the bulbs, and make sure the grounds are good, and run 12V through each rear signal wire, to make sure they operate independently, then see what happens when you reconnect the column.

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Old Jul 25, 2013 | 06:07 AM
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Thanks for all the ideas. Ill start work on it this weekend. Funny you say the old guy was a terror when he was younger. He is an interesting fellow. His wife did say he has calmed down a lot through the years.
He has so many cars. Two Toronados just sitting there and rusting, cars, cars cars everywhere. Maybe 20 or so outside, 6 or so inside.
This one was inside most of the time. He has fully restored cars he has not taken out on the road. He just does not want to sell them. He did most of the work himself, so he has a nice setup with a lift, lathe etc. I know when he dies, his wife will sell it all off.
Old Aug 2, 2013 | 11:33 AM
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WORKS PERFECTLY!!

So, it was the column switch, and it was the missing flasher. And finally two of the bubs in the back were the wrong type.
Now to get the horn working.
Old Aug 2, 2013 | 11:59 AM
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wiring diagram

waterzap do you have a source for a wiring print for 67 toro?
Old Aug 2, 2013 | 12:20 PM
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waterzap do you have a source for a wiring print for 67 toro?
Try wildaboutcars.com.

Free to join, has lots of service manuals, including the '67 Oldsmobile, and there are wiring diagrams in them.
Old Aug 2, 2013 | 12:21 PM
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I did get a wiring diagram from classic car wiring. It looks very nice, but in this case did not help me all that much. For example, still cannot find the second flasher on the wiring diagram. So I did not know the car had two.
Old Aug 2, 2013 | 12:22 PM
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Actually do have a wild about cars account. Did not know they had wiring daigrams. Will snoop around. Thanks
Old Aug 2, 2013 | 12:24 PM
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They don't have separate wiring diagrams (that I know of). Wiring diagrams are part of the service manuals, so you need to look at the 1967 factory service manual. Section 12.
Old Aug 2, 2013 | 12:37 PM
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I think Toro diagrams were in the separate Toro section that year.

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Old Aug 2, 2013 | 12:57 PM
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It is, but the Toro supplement is part of the main manual. I did misspeak earlier, though. The section he's looking for is not 12 as I said, but 12E. Wildaboutcars has this.
Old Aug 2, 2013 | 01:02 PM
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Yes, exactly.

He could look all day in 12 and not find it, but if he goes into the Toro supplement, it's in 12E there, just waiting for him.

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