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Old June 17th, 2024, 05:52 PM
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so, perhaps the previous owner put an incorrect pump on the engine. The pulley that was on it was 3 groove, The p/s pulley lined up OK. The alternator pulley did not. It is too far in towards the engine so the belt is way out of line and sequels.
The part number cast into the pump is 31290.
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pulley is 3 groove. middle groove is too far towards the engine and is the cause of the misalignment.
Both pulley 2 & 3 are have too short a "snout"
I need a 2 groove pulley like 2 & 3, but with the 1 5/8" dimension of the incorrect pulley shown on the orange ruler.
Does that exist?
If I need to get a new pump, what pulley would I need for that?

Thank you so very much for your guidance in this confusing mess I have gotten into.



pulley 1 original

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Old June 17th, 2024, 06:39 PM
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The three groove pulley you have is from a 1980s 307 and was used on the 6.1" pump. Is the crank pulley original to the 1968 motor or not. Trying to mix and match pulleys will be a disaster. Get the correct pump and pulleys that match. What alternator bracket are you using? The pump, pulleys, and brackets all need to be a matched set.
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Old June 18th, 2024, 03:58 PM
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I found a 5.6' pump. Would that take the black 2 groove pulley in my previous post?
The grey pulley should go on the 5.1" pump, correct?
How do I find out what P/S bracket and alternator bracket is on the engine?
Both those pulleys are in alignment as they should be.
Just the water pump is not lined up.

Where are the 5.1 pumps available?
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Old June 18th, 2024, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by beehall
Where are the 5.1 pumps available?
From Post #80 above:

Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Your car SHOULD have a 5.1" pump. Airtex AW773 is one option for a correct new one. It will be easier to get the correct pump than to try to find a pulley that will work.
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Old June 20th, 2024, 09:39 AM
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Just any FYI, I know the thread is old but, there is a another 5.1" water pump out there. The Carter W343M from rocker auto.
yes I know how to spell.

ref: https://carterengineered.com/engine-water-pump-w343m

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Old June 20th, 2024, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by derone
Just any FYI, I know the thread is old but, there is a another 5.1" water pump out there. The Carter W343M from rocker auto.
yes I know how to spell.

ref: https://carterengineered.com/engine-water-pump-w343m
There are many sources of 5.1" pumps. The Airtex I listed is only one.
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Originally Posted by derone
Just any FYI, I know the thread is old but, there is a another 5.1" water pump out there. The Carter W343M from rocker auto.
yes I know how to spell.

ref: https://carterengineered.com/engine-water-pump-w343m
rock auto even has the GMP aluminum ones! ( at least they used to - and 2 different lengths for sure. I use the long 6" #130-1260 on my 67 with a set of 73 pulleys that hs the small diameter water pump pulley that makes the pump turn faster than he diameter of the 67 WP pulley.
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Old June 20th, 2024, 12:20 PM
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GMB 1302773 is another 5.1" pump but it's cast iron.

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Old June 20th, 2024, 12:22 PM
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GMB 1301360 is a 5.6" aluminum pump
GMB 1301260AL is a 6.1" aluminum pump

Both of these have the smaller 1.75" inlet used on the 1971-up cars. The 1970-older cars use a 2" inlet.
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
GMB 1302773 is another 5.1" pump but I don't think it's aluminum
its actually GMB130-1260AL ( 6" aluminum at Rock Auto

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Old June 20th, 2024, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Chesrown 67 OAI
its actually GMB130-1260AL ( 6" aluminum at Rock Auto
Yeah, I noted that in my most recent post. Beehall needs a 5.1" pump for his current setup. His problem is that he already has the wrong length pump and is going through the usual pulley misalignment problem.
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
GMB 1302773 is another 5.1" pump but I don't think it's aluminum
its actually GMB130-1260AL ( 6" aluminum at Rock Auto


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Old June 20th, 2024, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
GMB 1301360 is a 5.6" aluminum pump
GMB 1301260AL is a 6.1" aluminum pump

Both of these have the smaller 1.75" inlet used on the 1971-up cars. The 1970-older cars use a 2" inlet.
they gave me a sleeve to use if needed for 2" hose
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Originally Posted by Chesrown 67 OAI
they gave me a sleeve to use if needed for 2" hose
Cool. Was there a part number on the sleeve? That might be helpful for folks needing a pump with the “other” size hose application.
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Not that i know of? Maybe google the question?
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Old June 21st, 2024, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Fun71
Cool. Was there a part number on the sleeve? That might be helpful for folks needing a pump with the “other” size hose application.
Dayco 76950 or Gates 26391 or Continental 58982 is a 1.75 to 1.50 reducer bushing that works at the radiator end of the lower hose to adapt the 1970-older hose to a newer radiator (most aftermarket radiators come with the 1971-up 1.50 lower hose barb).
Dayco 76975 or Gates 26392 or Continental 58983 is a 2.00 to 1.75 reducer bushing to use the 1971-up water pump on a 1970-older car.
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Old June 25th, 2024, 09:19 PM
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1971 cutlass with out air conditon

looking for a new waterpump can anyone send me a link for the shortest water pump 5" diamater
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Old June 26th, 2024, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by olds71forgiato
looking for a new waterpump can anyone send me a link for the shortest water pump 5" diamater
Rather than resurrecting multiple threads with the same question, just go read the answer I gave you to the first one.
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Rather than resurrecting multiple threads with the same question, just go read the answer I gave you to the first one.
I ordered the gun 1302773 like you said airtek aw773 thank you
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