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Old Sep 26, 2008 | 04:45 AM
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lunniti cam/65 330

am wanting to install a jm-18-20 cam in my 330 th350 cutlass to give it better bottom thump, it has the 23/2600 stall converter now and am also replacing the valve springs that with the kit? somewhere around 100 lbs, am I going to be ok with this? really getting over my head some but want the thump idel and more torque but will never use it as am done with racing just trying to go back to my days lumpy idle good sound hard shifting. thanks folks, ....jim
Old Sep 26, 2008 | 04:53 AM
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Jim,
Not to knowledge-able on cam selection but would comment that hard shifts would be achieved through transmission valve body work and real torque through the use of a big block. If you want some driving satisfaction with the car you have probably getting some throaty dual exhausts are the most bang for the buck, pipes as straight as possible.
Old Sep 28, 2008 | 06:25 AM
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my olds has 2 1/2 pipes w/flowmasters, th350 trans w/2300 stall, 355 posi, 255/60r15, was hoping that the above named cam would be a good one/ what would need to be changed?, valve springs, rocker arms, push rods, if so which ones would be needed? would like to run roller rocker's, would do you think?....jim
Old Sep 29, 2008 | 06:20 AM
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 07:13 AM
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Again, I can't comment on that particular cam and don't feel qualified on cams in general. I do know that roller rockers aren't used unless the cam lift profiles are much greater than .500. If that cam has a profile like that then perhaps roller rockers would be needed. Not sure.
Old Sep 29, 2008 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 65cutty
........ to give it better bottom thump ........
I cannot speak for anyone else, but, I have not replied, because this is not a language that I understand.

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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 09:09 AM
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JOE P CAN YOU HELP?
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 05:44 PM
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Specs for the Engle AKA Mondello cam

JM-18-200.4880.496260°/266°216°226°112°1000-5000
$149.00 StreetHL-230
555-H
555-HCRSK-247-SPSK-245-DTR-252
TR-499ARK
SAR110-140
I assume by "bottom thump" you mean a cam with a rough idle? This is not the one you are looking for.

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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 06:03 PM
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I hate when my motors get a bottom thump.
Especially if there's a rod sticking out of the side of the block.
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 06:03 PM
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But it is a good cam for a SB street car with his set up. It won't idle like a W31 though just a slight lope. You might be better served with the JM 20-22 cam w/ a true 9.5-10:1cr.
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thank you wireman, Ive decited to go with an eangle cam, 512/524 lift,104 lobe separtion, 274/280, duration, lots of low end torque, 1500 to 5000 range,roller rockers, guide plate's and push rods.
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 65cutty
thank you wireman, Ive decited to go with an eangle cam, 512/524 lift,104 lobe separtion, 274/280, duration, lots of low end torque, 1500 to 5000 range,roller rockers, guide plate's and push rods.

Keep in mind most recommended rpm ranges are for the long stroke Olds engines. That cam will be a little rougher in a SB short stroke Olds. What captjim preaches is true, most have a tendency to over cam the SB. That cam sounds good though for your setup. Post it up on YouTube when your done, so we can hear the music...

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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 03:11 AM
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IT WILL BE DONE ABOUT MID JAN AND YOU ARE WAY OVER MY HEAD AS TO UTUBE, MAYBE ONE OF THE SONS CAN HELP,
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 07:36 AM
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I certainly am not a cam expert or probably even a good novice but with the specs on that cam, I wonder how much low end torque you are really going to get. It seems pretty radical. I bet it will have one heck of a lope. It looks like you have the gears and the stall for it.
Old Oct 29, 2008 | 09:31 AM
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Make sure you get the correct lifter bank angle.
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 05:31 AM
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Cam choice

I had that same cam in my 350, the JM 18-20. VERY mild. But I know why. When I checked it in the engine it had almost 10 less degrees of duration @ .050 than it was supposed to. Also had less lift. I was not overly impressed.

Engle is NOT the only cam choice for ANY Olds. There a lot of good cam companies out there that will grind you one or already have the cam you need.

If it's the wrong cam for your application then it's the wrong cam period, no matter who's it is.
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 05:42 AM
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YOU ARE RIGHT, IVE DECITED TO GO WITH MONDELLO'S 22-25-10 CAM IN A 1975 350 WITH 65 330 HEADS, WITH OTHER SLIGHT MOD'S.
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 06:20 AM
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I understand what the terms lift and duration are but how would one measure those dimensions of a cam in the car, or out of the car for that matter?

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I had that same cam in my 350, the JM 18-20. VERY mild. But I know why. When I checked it in the engine it had almost 10 less degrees of duration @ .050 than it was supposed to. Also had less lift. I was not overly impressed.

Engle is NOT the only cam choice for ANY Olds. There a lot of good cam companies out there that will grind you one or already have the cam you need.

If it's the wrong cam for your application then it's the wrong cam period, no matter who's it is.
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 09:07 AM
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You use a degree wheel and a couple of dial indicators. Usually done when you are putting the engine together. What they call dialing in the cam or sometimes called degreeing the cam.

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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 04:50 PM
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Lift can be measured with calipers. The diameter of the base circle (heel) at its shortest point, subtracted from base circle to the highest point of the lobe.

All specs are checked, using a lathe or similar fixture, and degree wheel, the same way as its done in the engine. No problem for a competent shop.

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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 06:44 AM
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Thanks guys, after posting my question and reading your replies I realize I had known about that. I guess that is showing my age (not sure what is going faster, my body or my mind).
Old Nov 7, 2008 | 10:25 AM
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I thought you were asking, for the benefit of the new guys.

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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 10:28 AM
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I am embarrassed in two ways now. First, for being a dummy and asking a question that I already knew the answer to out of plain forgetfulness and second for not watching out for the people here on the sites. DOH!
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