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Old Dec 8, 2022 | 04:36 PM
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Intake manifold crack

1969 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
350 Rocket

Crack is an understatement as you can see in the picture. Is there any way to repair this short​​​​​​​ of replacing the whole thing?


Old Dec 8, 2022 | 04:39 PM
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Wont hurt a thing. Might even be normal, is it leaking anything ? I have seen intakes before with gaps like that under bolts. As long as there is a washer on the bolt it will be just fine.
Old Dec 8, 2022 | 06:54 PM
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That crack is as cast. It's a slot in the intake
Old Dec 8, 2022 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 66SportCoupe
That crack is as cast. It's a slot in the intake
Agreed. Here's a web picture of a 350 intake manifold:


Old Dec 8, 2022 | 07:37 PM
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Agreed. Here's a web picture of a 350 intake manifold:

Originally Posted by 66SportCoupe
That crack is as cast. It's a slot in the intake
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Wont hurt a thing. Might even be normal, is it leaking anything ? I have seen intakes before with gaps like that under bolts. As long as there is a washer on the bolt it will be just fine.
Thanks everyone! I was worried for a bit. I'll continue on my mission to get it running again.
Old Dec 9, 2022 | 03:39 AM
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The notch/slot is contained in the mold during manufacturing (as has been said previously). The liquid (smelted) cast iron is poured into the mold which forms the notch/slot. The notch/slot is/was used to assist in alignment of the intake manifold onto the engine during seating/assembly on the assembly line. If you remove the intake manifold (yourself), during reassembly (it weights ~55 lbs), consider placing a "taller" bolt at that position until you have the intake manifold seated on the intake manifold gasket (to aid in positioning/aligning the intake manifold). Once installed/assembled, place the original (or appropriately sized) bolt in place.
Old Dec 9, 2022 | 04:49 AM
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Norm, that's a good idea to use a taller stud for intake manifold alignment during assembly. Especially considering the fact that the turkey tray gasket isn't easy to install.👍

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Old Dec 9, 2022 | 05:51 AM
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That is not a "crack". It is a purposely-machined slot. The intake bolt holes are all oversize to allow for tolerance stackup from machining. That one slot is tight relative to the bolt diameter. This is what locates the intake fore/aft on the long block. The slot allows the intake to "float" up and down relative to the mating surfaces on the heads to allow for machining tolerances, so that the intake bottoms on the intake flanges of the heads and not on the bolts. It is much easier to machine a tight tolerance slot like that than a tight tolerance oval hole. Stop stressing over this.
Old Dec 9, 2022 | 07:11 AM
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A bolt head will not fit through the slot when lowering the intake down into position during assembly. There's a reason a threaded stud is used in that position.
Old Dec 9, 2022 | 07:55 AM
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Right, DOH!
Old Dec 9, 2022 | 10:01 AM
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No one stated to "lower" the intake manifold "down" into position over the obviously large bolt head. You can "easily" slide the intake manifold into position while using a "taller" bolt "then" lower the intake into position "below" the bolt head. Works flawlessly.
Old Dec 9, 2022 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Stop stressing over this.
Unless I'm missing something - I don't believe anyone was stressing over this. It was a very simple question - no stress involved.
Old Dec 9, 2022 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Vintage Chief
Unless I'm missing something - I don't believe anyone was stressing over this. It was a very simple question - no stress involved.
Worrying that an obviously and intentionally machined slot is a "crack" is stressing over it.
Old Dec 9, 2022 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Worrying that an obviously and intentionally machined slot is a "crack" is stressing over it.
You're right, Joe - what was I thinking.
Old Dec 9, 2022 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Vintage Chief
The notch/slot is contained in the mold during manufacturing (as has been said previously). The liquid (smelted) cast iron is poured into the mold which forms the notch/slot. The notch/slot is/was used to assist in alignment of the intake manifold onto the engine during seating/assembly on the assembly line. If you remove the intake manifold (yourself), during reassembly (it weights ~55 lbs), consider placing a "taller" bolt at that position until you have the intake manifold seated on the intake manifold gasket (to aid in positioning/aligning the intake manifold). Once installed/assembled, place the original (or appropriately sized) bolt in place.
Originally Posted by Vintage Chief
No one stated to "lower" the intake manifold "down" into position over the obviously large bolt head. You can "easily" slide the intake manifold into position while using a "taller" bolt "then" lower the intake into position "below" the bolt head. Works flawlessly.
50 pounds of "easy" ? You don't want to damage or shift the intake gaskets.
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