69OldZman

Hi guys,
This may sound like a simple question, but I'm looking for input from guys with more years of experience. I tried searching the forums, but I can't figure out how to search the term "oil filter" so that the results produce the words together.

Anyhow,
I changed the oil on my 69 Cutlass convert today. It has a late model 403 in it. The filter that was on it was a Delco PF24, and for whatever reason, on my shelf I had a PF58? I'm not home so I'm not sure the exact number, but basically it threaded on, but was a smaller diameter filter.

I realize there are probably several that fit, What do you guys run/recommend?

Technical guys please chime in.

joe_padavano

There are a whole slew of filters that have the same threads and gasket diameter. PF24, PF30, PF58, PF59, PF61. Use the largest one you can get. The PF61 is the new replacement for all the Olds/Pontiac/Buick/Caddy applications. It is much smaller than the PF24.

69OldZman

Joe,
Just the man I was hoping would chime in! I'll take a look at that list and see what's biggest. I'm guessing they are all safe to run, but bigger gives greater filtering power. Which do you run on your olds?

Thanks!

Charlie Z

Bobsw32

For the bucks I use NAPA GOLD series good filter

Mobile 1 filter one of the best but it has been running $10 - $12

OLD SKL 69

x2

I used to work in a NAPA store as well as an auto garage, Napa does make the best filters for the money.

69OldZman

Do you use the Napa Gold listed for the application, or do you have a specific other? FIL1258?

chris83

im running a k&n oil filter on my 455 and have run wix borth realy good filters

Joeypete

I use Fram mostly. They have a few different types you can buy. I always buy my parts at Checker so whatever they have works for me. I dunno, I find it hard to spend 10+ bucks on an oil filter...my dad always told me as long as you change your oil often, you should be good to go with most any filter. Course he was kinda old school

Yellowstatue

I use a Fram PH 25 on the cars with headers and PH 13 on the others because there is more room for the larger filter..

kaz442

Wix no questions, I believe the Napa gold are made by Wix Also. Do not use fram, just do a search on the web and you'll know why. JKaz

Lady72nRob71

I use AC Delco PF24 on my two stock Olds'. Due to larger size, you will need an end-grip wrench to get them off as you cannot get your hands in there well.
I quit using fram long ago when they put that black crap at the end, which turns to powder by time it is time to remove it, making it harder and messier to remove. I once heard that the AC Delcos were made better internally (crimped and not glued or something like that.) Not sure if that still stands true... I think there are only 3 actual manufacturers of oil filters, but I can't remember the details... I will dig around for that article.

rocketraider

I went after oil & air filters for the wagon this weekend; went to the Advance my bud manages intending to get Purolators, which have always worked well on that car. I'm leery of new production AC Delco filters and seems like the NAPA or CarQuest are never open when I can get there.

Go in, back to the filter racks and look all over. No Purolators anywhere. Barely any ACD.

What I found was a whole freaking wall full of FRAM. WTF? Pat said Advance was doing a test market in some stores (and his was one) on a changeover from Purolator. Apparently Allied Signal/Fram lined someone's pockets pretty good to get that kind of shelf space.

I gnawed on Pat and his assistant, then I went home and emailed Advance Corporate and gnawed on them too. Basically told them if a Fram was the best non-OEM filter they could offer me, I'd take my filter (and other) business elsewhere. I refuse to use a Fram filter on any engine.

At least most private label filters are made by either Purolator or WIX.

"Pay me now, or pay me later." Truth in advertising if ever was.

69OldZman

Guys,
I really appreciate everyone chiming in. I found some oil filter reviews that I thought were quite interesting. I've always been a fan of AC delco, but this review says to avoid the newer ones. Pretty good reviews of Napa/Wix as well as Purolator. Take a read...first the general impressions and like/dislike

http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oil.../opinions.html

then the actual cutaway and review

http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oil...html#fram-ph8a

Lady72nRob71

It looks like I have some homework to do before buying new filters...

I remember a review page like this years ago and AC Delco was on top. Now they seemed to have gone the cheap route and fell out.

--The NEW CRAPPY AC Delco filers can be identified by an "E" at the end of the part number (stands for Ecore (Economy core)) and 8 smaller inlet holes.
The older ones are still out there - i found three at Oreilly's on 10-26-10! The have the 6 holes and no "E" after the part number on the box.

It looks like Fram still has not improved.

At least I can still depend on Motorcraft filters for the Ford (for now)... Maybe I will find a Motorcraft sub for the GM cars!

Joeypete

Good reviews...I guess I will try a Bosch next time. The K&N is a bit pricey, and I don't buy Exxon/Mobil products EVER.

My442

Run a 1 quart filter: Baldwin B9 or Wix 1049

jensenracing77

X2 on the napa gold and wix being the same thing. my dad has ran trop artic oil and the cheapest oil filter he can find at the time and has 313,000 miles on his 77 cutlass engine. after seeing this i don't worry about what brand to run. i use AC because i am to much of an originalist.

citcapp

Roll of toilet paper in a home made cannister. If it works for me it should work for the car right

Wireman134

Purolator L30005 or equal Holds a quart and has the proper anti drain back characteristics for the Olds engine. Fram PH13 does not by the way have a anti drainback valve. Purolator makes Wix, Napa, and many other filters Wix 51049 is the same 9-11gpm flow.

OhMyOlds

Bosch, NAPA Gold, WIX are all good

Lady72nRob71

As long as it is not the "rapidly decomposing" stuff they sell for camping. That stuff decomposes before it has even finished its intended job!
Just remember to take the cardboard roller out first.

Metal 2lb coffee cans work well for a super capacity filter shell, and they make good fart-pipes for the ricers...
Recycling at its finest...

Joeypete

I just put in the Fram Tough Guard in my Custom Cruiser...the review site said the TG's were ok out of all the Fram's...they said to avoid the other models.