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Old Jul 4, 2023 | 02:34 PM
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W-31 owners. I'm looking for bone stock W-31 motors. I have built my motor as close to W-31 specs as is possible with todays components. I'm getting 10 inches of vacuum at idle. That seems lower than what I'd expect from a factory motor. I know 82* of overlap is considerable for 350 cubes, but it still seems like it should be closer to 14 inches. So to you stock W-31 owners, if you'd care to, could you throw a vacuum gauge on your motors and tell me what you are getting? Include how much flutter you're getting. A little, a lot, none.
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Old Jul 4, 2023 | 03:29 PM
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Both of my W31s have 8-9 inches at idle. My camshafts are originals.
Old Jul 4, 2023 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by joesw31
Both of my W31s have 8-9 inches at idle. My camshafts are originals.
Interesting. Well I guess I'm right in there then. Thanks Joe.
Old Jul 4, 2023 | 04:52 PM
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If you have vacuum advance, connect it to full manifold vacuum and that should increase the idle vacuum. It worked well on my engine.
Old Jul 4, 2023 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Fun71
If you have vacuum advance, connect it to full manifold vacuum and that should increase the idle vacuum. It worked well on my engine.
I'm using a Mallory mechanical advance distributor. As of now, I don't have any parasitic vacuum draws on the engine other than the PCV valve and the line to the modulator. Next summer the auto is coming out and the 4 speed is going in so that will leave only the PCV valve. I thought I was low, but according to Joe, I'm right in there. So I'm good. Engine runs fine. I just thought that strolling into an Olds dealer in 1969 and finding a car with only 9 inches of idle vacuum would be pretty radical. But I guess not.
Old Jul 4, 2023 | 05:40 PM
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That cam is why the cars had manual brakes - not enough vacuum for the booster.
Old Jul 4, 2023 | 05:46 PM
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That cam is why the cars had manual brakes - not enough vacuum for the booster.
Yep. I hear ya. I think 16 inches is the iffy spot for PB. Pretty gnarly for a showroom car. But hey, the W-30 had 328 duration with I think 108* overlap. That's nuts.
Old Jul 4, 2023 | 05:50 PM
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I wish every true Oldsmobile fan could drive a factory W car. Completely different animals. I had a friend with a 70 W-30. Kind of a beater but man did that car run. Then one of my brother's had his W-31. That car pulled so strong.
Old Jul 4, 2023 | 07:12 PM
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Yep. I hear ya. I think 16 inches is the iffy spot for PB.
I think that’s fairly accurate based on my experiences. My engine had 14-16” bouncy vacuum with the 217* cam and the power brakes were iffy. After much tuning I got it to a steady 16” vacuum and the brakes work very well, they seem the same as the factory setup that had around 20” vacuum.
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