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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 08:50 AM
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What are the opinions on headers? I have a 71 cutlass with the 350 and dual exhaust. Do you think headers will help with performance/more HP?

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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 08:50 AM
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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 09:27 AM
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Long tube headers are an improvement over stock exhaust. Will it register on the butt dyno, probably not.
Old Jun 14, 2017 | 09:49 AM
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Eric is correct. Your butt dyno will probably not be able to tell the difference. It will change the sound of your car's exhaust note though.

Be prepared to change header gaskets. They can blow out, especially if you buy a set of cheap headers.
Old Jun 14, 2017 | 10:12 AM
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You are looking at 15-30 hp and torque dependent on short or long tube etc. The Sanderson shorty headers fit nice. What size pipe is your dual exhaust?
Old Jun 14, 2017 | 04:17 PM
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First, the more air (and thus fuel) you can move in and out of the engine, the more HP it will make. Proper tuned full length headers have been proven time and time and time again to provide about 20-30 HP increase over stock manifolds. More importantly, this improved exhaust breathing is an important foundation for any other performance upgrades you plan to make. I personally wouldn't waste my time with shorty headers.
Old Jun 14, 2017 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by my71olds
Hello

What are the opinions on headers? I have a 71 cutlass with the 350 and dual exhaust. Do you think headers will help with performance/more HP?

Thanks
I much prefer headers over factory manifolds as headers will flow a lot better than the factory exhaust manifolds. I have a set of Heddmans on my car and they have held up well over the past 30+ years. No gasket blow-outs, loose bolts, etc.

Is your '71 350 still in factory form (8:1 compression and puny camshaft)?
Old Jun 23, 2017 | 06:25 AM
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Go out and get yourself a pair of hookers. Headers that is.
Old Jul 13, 2017 | 09:07 AM
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Yes still in factory form
Old Jul 13, 2017 | 10:11 AM
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IMO if all you're planning to do is look at upgrade to an existing dual exhaust? Not worth your time and money. If you're planning to change intake, cam, lifters then I'd consider the headers
It all comes to how deep your pockets are and what your plans are for using the car. Show car? Nope. DD, maybe. Performance, yup.
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Originally Posted by my71olds
Yes still in factory form
except that no 71 CS verts came from the factory with deck wings, and those side mirrors appear to be one year only 1970.

Last edited by Allan R; Jul 13, 2017 at 10:33 AM. Reason: Typo 70 sb 71
Old Jul 13, 2017 | 10:20 AM
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except that no 70 CS verts came from the factory with deck wings, and those side mirrors appear to be one year only 1970.
its a 71 and the spoiler was added not by me
Old Jul 13, 2017 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Allan R
except that no 70 CS verts came from the factory with deck wings, and those side mirrors appear to be one year only 1970.
I was talking about the engine
Old Jul 13, 2017 | 10:31 AM
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One other thing you'd have to consider is moving the brake distribution valve if you put headers in. Check the location and you'll see what I mean.
Sorry, I apologize for the other comments. I thought you were talking about the car in general.
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If you put in Sanderson shorty headers, nothing need moved, you just need custom down pipes. They are much roomier than in my Gbody.
Old Jul 13, 2017 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Fun71
I much prefer headers over factory manifolds as headers will flow a lot better than the factory exhaust manifolds. I have a set of Heddmans on my car and they have held up well over the past 30+ years. No gasket blow-outs, loose bolts, etc.

Is your '71 350 still in factory form (8:1 compression and puny camshaft)?
What part # for your Heddmans? Full length right?

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Old Jul 13, 2017 | 09:56 PM
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One other thing you'd have to consider is moving the brake distribution valve if you put headers in.
Not necessary on small blocks, but may be required on big blocks. The Heddmans fit without relocating the valve on both my 70 and 71 with 350 engines.
Old Jul 13, 2017 | 09:57 PM
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What part # for your Heddmans? Full length right?

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Not sure about the part number, I bought them back in the 80s. 58150 comes to mind, but again, it's a memory from last century.


And yes, full length.
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