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Old August 11th, 2018 | 06:16 PM
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EFI’d SB Stroker build

Doing it now. 4.125x4.00, 10.0:1, RPM intake, 7a heads, 2.00/1.62 valves. No other port work.
Hyd roller, 223/232 on a 110, .557/.551 lift
Holley Terminator 950 TBI.
Wanna guess on hp and tq? My guess is 440/530.
Old August 11th, 2018 | 06:29 PM
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Aren't those heads gonna be quite the choke point with no port work on 427 cubes?
Old August 11th, 2018 | 08:24 PM
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I'll guess 425/475. But I am just guessing.
Old August 12th, 2018 | 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by OLDSter Ralph
I'll guess 425/475. But I am just guessing.
The last 9 to 1 stroker build with the same heads and a smaller roller cam made over 400 hp and 500 ft/lbs. I say 435 hp/535 ft/lbs. The other one made great vacuum, curious how much that will drop. Also 10 to 1 is pushing it with iron heads, curious how it will run on 91 or will 93 be manditory?
Old August 12th, 2018 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by svnt442
Aren't those heads gonna be quite the choke point with no port work on 427 cubes?
Yes. But this build may get a better top end later.
Pump premium will be no problem with 10.0:1 and EFI, done it a bunch of times.
Old August 12th, 2018 | 08:00 AM
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Following closely.

Few questions. Valve sizes. 2.000 and 1.625. Why? Out of interest, since my head builder, for exact same 7a's chose that valve size. Didnt want 2.07 intakes and DEFINITEDLY NOT 1.68 exhausts. Ill trust him on this, as he has decades of experience solely from building heads. And were not building all-out race-heads. Interested because the norm here ( web) seems to be to stuff largest valves you can physically fit.

Im reaching 10:1 compression also, but instead i chose carbs but with fully programmable ignition with vacuum sensor to fight against detonation.

My quess.. 455/520
Old August 12th, 2018 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Inline
Following closely.
Few questions. Valve sizes. 2.000 and 1.625. Why? Out of interest, since my head builder, for exact same 7a's chose that valve size. Didnt want 2.07 intakes and DEFINITEDLY NOT 1.68 exhausts.
My quess.. 455/520
As mentioned, heads will most likely get replaced with aluminum’s down the road. No need to put even more money into the 7a’s.
Good guess by the way. We’ll see who wins the boobie prize.
Old August 12th, 2018 | 06:22 PM
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Mark, those heads ? Why use those wirh rpm ? I get it as Olds stuff and your work costs good money. Appreciate anyone using that nice 4” crank as it’s a game changer and can’t wait to see what it does In a D/DX.

I am thinking 425 and 530Tq. with those heads. If you used my 6’s that we just maxed out 500hp? My brother is still drooling over them. Not sure any more metal could have been ported out.

This looks like a street build considering the cam and idle quality. Why not a bit more like 228/234 @112 on Efi ? I’ve ran 230 square on the street and that’s about as big as I would go before things just don’t work

edited... more hp and more tq

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Old August 13th, 2018 | 05:44 AM
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The owner has a clear reason for the conservative combination. His 16 year old will be driving it, at least for now.
Then he can replace the heads, cam etc once that scenario changes,
Old October 9th, 2018 | 04:53 PM
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Finished it today, 487/533. I’ll post the dyno sheet next.
Had issues with the Holley EFI, hence the lengthy timeframe.
Old October 10th, 2018 | 05:35 AM
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That's a lot of power! Impressive Mark.
Old October 10th, 2018 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by cutlassefi
Finished it today, 487/533. I’ll post the dyno sheet next.
Had issues with the Holley EFI, hence the lengthy timeframe.
What issues did you have? A lot of people make these sound like a miracle product
Old October 10th, 2018 | 06:32 AM
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What do you guys have for pump premium, 91 octane or 93? What quench do you run on your motors? Awesome power by the way.
Old October 10th, 2018 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by droptopron
What issues did you have? A lot of people make these sound like a miracle product
They're not, but remember this is a Terminator, not a Sniper. It uses a regular HP ECU.
It wouldn't learn as programmed and the onboard O2 is off significantly. When I did pulls based on the HP O2, it was struggling and registered a 14.5:1 afr on the dyno O2, but showed 13.5 on the HP software. However I was commanding 12.7, problem. It made 446 on that pull.
So I turned everything off, self learn, closed loop etc., and built a fuel map myself that targeted mid 12's for air/fuel. It made 487 so it's safe to say I was headed in the right direction. However the HP software showed that it barely got above 10.0:1. I'm discussing this with Holley but haven't found the issue yet.
None of these self learn systems are perfect, I've been saying that for years.
Christian - 93, squish was about .048-.050 on this build.

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Old October 11th, 2018 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by cutlassefi
Finished it today, 487/533. I’ll post the dyno sheet next.
Had issues with the Holley EFI, hence the lengthy timeframe.
Drool. And this is with iron heads! Here I was thinking alum heads would be necessary to eclipse 450 HP in a SBO. The owner should be overjoyed with these results. Great job, I need to get off my rear and begin planning my build.
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Congrats Mark ! That is outstanding and hope to do one your kits in a couple years for one of my cars
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