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Old August 13th, 2010, 01:58 PM
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Cooling System upgrade

Good afternoon and happy Friday!

While the ol' 307-powered 1983 Ninety-Eight is running fine, additional cooling here in the desert is always a concern. It looks like I have a 3-row aftermarket radiator. I have no idea what brand it is.

I'm looking to upgrade to a large aluminum rad. I'm trying to stay away from copper (everything I've seen is of poor quality Chineseium ) or aluminum/plastic. I'd just like to have the extra cooling capacity for a future larger engine.

Any ideas what will fit? Would any full-sized B/C body radiator 77-96 fit? Were there changes in the core support, etc?

In other words, what are the "rules of engagement" for radiator interchange.


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Old August 13th, 2010, 05:49 PM
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DeWitts makes a great aluminum radiator but I think they only make them for Corvettes. I have one in my 94 Corvette and it has helped a lot. Very high quality. Might be worth giving them a call or checking their website.
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Old August 13th, 2010, 08:13 PM
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I can tell you now the 94-96 b-body and d-body radiators won't be an upgrade. They do have the provisions for the elctric fans, but the radiator itself doesn't do a great job and they are no longer made with the overflow nipple. That means you'd need to find a different way to run the overflow or switch to an integrated resivoir like those cars came with.

On a side note many of the b-body crowd who have the money to spend have had good luck with Griffin radiators. I'd try it but it's pretty pricy.
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Old August 15th, 2010, 08:33 AM
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Just make sure that you have a damnned large thermostatic clutch fan behind it, that moves enough air when hot, to propel a small airplane.
180 deg thermostat.
THAT is the way to keep your cool in the desert.
Yes, it will sap some power.
No, you won't have to push the car.
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Old August 15th, 2010, 10:37 AM
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An inexpensive upgrade would be to get a replacement radiator and fan clutch to fit a 1978-1984 diesel 350 "B" or"C" car setup. Possibly one for the 1977-1979 403ci models with air and towing package. Just some ideas.
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Old August 16th, 2010, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Warhead
Just make sure that you have a damned large thermostatic clutch fan behind it, that moves enough air when hot, to propel a small airplane.
180 deg thermostat.
THAT is the way to keep your cool in the desert.
Yes, it will sap some power.
No, you won't have to push the car.
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Yup, already done that. I've got a Hayden 2797 (Severe Duty) clutch and a 180 degree `stat. I put on the clutch last week. Seems to help a bit and I don't notice any power loss. Definitely not a luxury in the desert!
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Old August 16th, 2010, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by goatwgn
An inexpensive upgrade would be to get a replacement radiator and fan clutch to fit a 1978-1984 diesel 350 "B" or"C" car setup. Possibly one for the 1977-1979 403ci models with air and towing package. Just some ideas.

I didn't think of that. I'm sure I could easily find one, but my concern is that the brass/copper radiators you get nowadays seem to be of poor quality. The aluminum ones are really expensive. Are there any companies out there that still make good OE-style radiators? I heard Modine is gone.
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Old August 16th, 2010, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by henryk8398
I heard Modine is gone.
Not at all:

http://www.modine.com/v2portal/modine.portal
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I am running a cheap plastic / aluminum one in my Cutlass , it has a 403 which are known to have cooling problems , 160 degree thermostat , stock 72 350 clutch fan . Car has not reached 200 degrees yet. I have driven it on 95 degree days. hopefully it holds up over time though , but it only cost about 129.00. I think the aluminum radiators really help
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Originally Posted by henryk8398
Yup, already done that. I've got a Hayden 2797 (Severe Duty) clutch and a 180 degree `stat. I put on the clutch last week. Seems to help a bit and I don't notice any power loss. Definitely not a luxury in the desert!
Truer words were never spoken.
Hayden is a quality part.
Sounds like you are doing good for now. If you go bigger, it will probably do, but a good aluminum unit will be 1 step better.
Good luck.
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Old August 18th, 2010, 06:06 AM
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You could always find an electric fan in the salvage yard and install it in your car. Oldsguy and I found an electric fan out of an 80s 3/4 ton Dodge van and installed it in his 69 Delta 88. It worked like a champ.
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