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Old April 7th, 2013, 12:44 PM
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307 water pump leak problem question

Hello, i have found that place the water leak a little outside the waterpump,is right back the wheel of the fan, does any know if it`s a bearing behind the waterpump wheel? cause in this winter i have some frost inside cause to low antifreeze water % :/ , maybe it have damage something, i look under the car today, i tought it was the sealing was bad but i found it leak out from behind the fan wheel, can i fix it or must i have a new waterpump if any know?

And another question, is there diffrent types of waterpump? i look at ebay and i see 2 diffrent types, i can`t remember mine waterpump look the same..

i think maybe i have this type.. and the pic under is my pump, bad pic i found.

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It sounds like it is leaking from the bearing seal, I would replace the water pump.
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Old April 7th, 2013, 01:18 PM
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Oh ok, maybe i can try to seal it with gasket glue, when i waiting for new pump then, i will buy a new one.
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Old April 7th, 2013, 02:16 PM
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It's an internal seal you can't see. You can't do anything to it except replace the pump. That little hole on the underside is there to give you a warning that the seal is leaking and it's time to replace it.
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Old April 7th, 2013, 02:21 PM
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Ah i see, thanks for the tip, i found this site to help me more to find the correct pumplenght too, i see it comes in diffrent high/size, will try to find the same casting nr on my pump

http://www.oldsmobility.com/oldsmo/v....php?f=6&t=391
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Old April 7th, 2013, 06:56 PM
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Yes, if the pump is leaking behind the pulley then it must be rebuilt/ replaced.

It looks like your WP has a "4" on the right hand outlet boss- if so, that would be by far the most common unit, 6.1" long, typically casting # 412265.

The "3" casting and other aftermarket pumps with no factory markings will also fit.

Interesting chart you showed. Quite a bit of misinformation there regarding the '68-69 water pump castings, but that should not affect your project.

What year/ model/ engine do you have?

Also, your photo shows Teflon tape used on the fuel line fitting at the pump. That joint seals with a flare, not with thread interference, so no tape should be used there. Perhaps some grease or anti-seize. It would be best to have solid steel line all the way from pump to carb also.
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Finally i could see the casting nr on my pump today, and yes it was a 412265 Pump with this "4" number on it, so now i know what right part i can buy

I don`t remember what year the engine is from, i dont remember the engine number right now, but its the 307ci with 5A heads and i think 140hp, i can note down the engine nr later if it helps

Oh ok, but i have not have problem yet with the teflone tape yet, but i have another fuel filter between the pump and carburetor anyway if the tape should go loose inside or something, but thanks for the tip, i tought i would leak fuel out if i dont use tape there, but now i remember it is the same thing on brakelines too,and they not leak hehe..
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Originally Posted by Octania
What year/ model/ engine do you have?
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Here is the engine number, maybe it can give u some info. 3161 5A
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5A is the head number, you have an 81-84 307 in there.

New water pump, the only way to go. Not hard to replace, just a pain because of the amount of bending you have to do
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The purpose of the weep hole is to let the pump leak and keep the coolant from reaching the bearing resulting in a bad failure. (could not spell catasrophic!) This happens when the weep hole hole gets plugged.
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Originally Posted by Redog
5A is the head number, you have an 81-84 307 in there.

New water pump, the only way to go. Not hard to replace, just a pain because of the amount of bending you have to do
81-84? wow,i tought it was a older engine, hehe yes i think it will go ok to replace it.


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The purpose of the weep hole is to let the pump leak and keep the coolant from reaching the bearing resulting in a bad failure. (could not spell catasrophic!) This happens when the weep hole hole gets plugged.
aha thats the reason the hole are there, some guy frome here i live told me one time i could plug it :S but i dont think so.. , anyway i think the bearing are a little noising too already.
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