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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 10:08 AM
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Are 65-70 B/C bodies undervalued?

I've seen numerous 68/69 Delta 88 and 98s for sale at a resonable price. Check these out:

https://atlanta.craigslist.org/eat/c...656588476.html


https://kansascity.craigslist.org/ct...656881564.html


https://frederick.craigslist.org/cto...675583130.html


Did Oldsmobile make more Delta 88 and 98 convertibles in these years vs. the coupes and sedans. I see just as many convertibles as I do coupes it seems.

Here's a Hagerty valuation. They price the convertibles at $9500 for one in fair condition.

https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuati...e-Ninety~Eight

Of course, there are prime examples that have a higher asking price:

https://beaumont.craigslist.org/cto/...665312264.html


Maybe 65-70 is too broad of a range to make a generalization. Just something I was pondering while day dreaming.
Old Aug 22, 2018 | 10:32 AM
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In my opinion you can take that year range back to 1961 and they are all undervalued. Both a good and bad thing if you are a lover of the big cars.
Old Aug 22, 2018 | 11:12 AM
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Hard to say if they are undervalued, as "intrinsic" value has very little meaning when it comes to collector cars. Pound-for-pound, they sell for less than similar era Cuttli; people just don't want them as much.

The 30K+ asking price on the 1965 Olds 98 convertible - nice car, but that guy is dreaming.
Old Aug 22, 2018 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by aliensatemybuick
Pound-for-pound, they sell for less than similar era Cuttli; people just don't want them as much.
Too true. It doesn't help that the Delta 88 and 98 are so hefty!

I agree that the price on the 65 is high.

Old Aug 22, 2018 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Olds64
Did Oldsmobile make more Delta 88 and 98 convertibles in these years vs. the coupes and sedans. I see just as many convertibles as I do coupes it seems.
My theory is that vintage convertibles have always been the most desired / highly valued body style, and as such, more have been preserved and are still around compared to the coupes and sedans (relatively speaking).
Old Aug 22, 2018 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBs68S
My theory is that vintage convertibles have always been the most desired / highly valued body style, and as such, more have been preserved and are still around compared to the coupes and sedans (relatively speaking).
^^^THIS. In 1967, Olds produced just under 273,000 full size cars (all Eighty Eights and Ninety Eights). Of those, 9741 were convertibles. That's a whopping 3.5% of total production. FYI, this is why Detroit stopped making convertibles in the 1970s. It had nothing to do with looming rollover safety requirements. It was entirely due to the fact that the didn't sell enough to be profitable.
Old Aug 22, 2018 | 12:41 PM
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For another data point, in the 1971 model year, Olds sold 266,231 full size cars, of which 2883 were convertibles - a full 1.0% of production.
Old Aug 22, 2018 | 12:47 PM
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Interesting.

The green 69 in MO isn't too far from me but that blue 69 in MD looks SWEET with those Keystone classics!

Now I just need to convince mama!
Old Aug 22, 2018 | 01:19 PM
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Model, scarcity,rarity & desirability. What's hard to understand about that? Very few collectors in the B/C or E market compared to the A body. Then again there's also the issue of getting parts/interiors and storing a larger car vs mid size. Insurance is insurance, but I think the valuations are all over the board. A lot of the B/C cars are a 'must see' and the buyer has to 'fall in love' with it for a healthy sale $$$. Most of the B/C cars that get advertised as projects end up bought cheap only for the value of the drivetrain.

Don't get me wrong - I love the land yachts. I used to own them all the time even when the gas shortages suggested it wasn't a good idea. There's been a lot of improvements to cars nowadays though to ride, noise and performance that have left the yesteryear cars wanting. It's all in the mind of the buyer and seller. None of these cars will last forever and I think there's less of the new generation that really will appreciate a land yacht like some of us do.

Good luck Jesse. Mama probably isn't gonna open them purse strings
Old Aug 22, 2018 | 05:15 PM
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A convertible is a fun car. An old car is a fun car. A muscle car is a fun car. Big cars and hardtops are more for utility and convenience and comfort while driving where you must. So, if you're going to have a fun car, have a convertible 442 instead of a hardtop 98, the thinking goes. Now, I can think of a good use for a big old car like the Power Tour, where a big car means more room to sit in and take more stuff.
Old Aug 23, 2018 | 04:59 AM
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The only A body I would own would be a 71 Cutlass S. My father; Oldsguy, owned one when I was young. Like the Toronados, the Cutlii are too small for a 7 footer. I guess I will have to stay with the BIG ladies.

Truthfully, of the ones I posted above I think the 68 in Atlanta is the most undervalued, eventhough the blue one has a lower price. The rims on the one in Atlanta are quite pricey (probably close to $1000+ each). It isn't my cup of tea but the owner is parting with that one for a bargain.
Old Aug 23, 2018 | 05:31 AM
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Hey Jesse,
How is Dan doing? We haven't seen him on the site in a meelyun years since he moved to TX. Hope all is well with him.
Old Aug 23, 2018 | 05:42 AM
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He's doing well but he sold his 77 Cutlass about a year ago. He's without an Oldsmobile now!
Old Aug 23, 2018 | 05:50 AM
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I think the question of "undervalued" is largely one of perspective. One could just as easily say that Cutlasses from that era are over-valued. It all comes down to a matter of supply and demand--mostly demand. Right now--and probably for the foreseeable future, the supply of full size Oldsmobiles from the '60s and early '70s is more than sufficient for the demand while the opposite is true for Cutlasses. An Eighty-Eight just doesn't have the same cachet for collectors; therefore, it doesn't command as high a price as a Cutlass. That said, they still can be enjoyable cars for the right person.
Old Aug 23, 2018 | 05:57 AM
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i like this 88

https://denver.craigslist.org/cto/d/...639928760.html

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Old Aug 23, 2018 | 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by cherokeepeople
That one definitely has the appeal. Great body style, bucket seats and 455 power. A paint change and new wheels would definitely not hurt it though. Nice find!!
Old Aug 23, 2018 | 09:48 AM
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. I guess I will have to stay with the BIG ladies. .
Hey, I was just a skinny lad, never knew no good from bad......
Old Aug 23, 2018 | 09:58 AM
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I was actually thinking of that song earlier. Dement...er I mean... great minds think alike.

Here's one worth seeing... NOT!
https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/d...655793607.html
Old Aug 23, 2018 | 10:39 AM
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My Blue one needs a friend ,nice car a Royale sweet!
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