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Old Jan 22, 2021 | 05:31 PM
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Anybody out here been to the track with one of CutlasEFI's engines, anybody?
Old Jan 22, 2021 | 05:44 PM
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Vortecpro. I asked that question actually years ago. It seems his clients are more street oriented . Which there is nothing wrong with., But as fast as olds I have not seen time slips
Old Jan 22, 2021 | 06:05 PM
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Old Jan 22, 2021 | 06:09 PM
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Break the mold !!! You doing this with the 70?.
Old Jan 22, 2021 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by VORTECPRO
Anybody out here been to the track with one of CutlasEFI's engines, anybody?
My Erson roller cam is from Mark. Short block built by Greg Godon a good 15 years ago, the cam and Edelbrock heads installed by Milan.
Old Jan 22, 2021 | 06:23 PM
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Funny. The cam that's in my small block came from an SBO Greg godon and milan where part of and milan and I talked alot when I had carb issues. Oddly enough I may score a set of heads that godon did.
Old Jan 22, 2021 | 06:24 PM
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Be patient, it will eventually happen😉.

BIG bracket race down in Florida this weekend............I will be watching.
Old Jan 22, 2021 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by coppercutlass
Break the mold !!! You doing this with the 70?.
I will be letting Mark pick out the compression, cam and heads. As long as it has decent manners to cruise for hours and will run on 91 octane, otherwise the engine specifics will be up to him. It will be the best combination possible to work with my existing parts. Hoping to hear from the machine shop within the next couple of weeks, then order pistons.
Old Jan 25, 2021 | 08:15 AM
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I have a different take on time slips. First you need a great reaction time. Second on any given day cars run differently and may need tuning and as long as driver is happy with the way the car runs then that is what counts. As a bracket racer good dial and good lights win you races. Its not about how fast you go. It is does the car repeat in performance and how close. I am not into throttle stops not racing in my book. Not into delay buttons if you can't cut a light that's your problem. I don't think fendering is racing if you're that fast race the higher bracket or heads up. I am the foot brake guy who hits the gas and runs it flat out to the finish line. I have been told delay boxes ,throttle stops,ECT will help you win more but I am more of what I call purist. I race sportsman at local tracks 11.50 is the cut off anything lower requires cage/ roll bar. I also race pro class starts at 11.50 and lower. No E is the type of racing to me is for street guys who want to race at tracks on a normal budget . I hate 1/8 mile racing that isn't what drag racing was for. I guess I am old fashion. The last five years of racing for me has been very limited . I hope to change this in 2021 but now I am forced to slow my car down to sportsman class bracket racing as pro is 1/8 mile at local tracks now!2019 was 1/4 everywhere! I have expressed this bs to track management why this isn't drag racing. All it does is help super pro cars on parts management to cut cost. The track management agreed but said they needed car count.
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Old Jan 25, 2021 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Duh

That's a damn good time slip.
Old Jan 25, 2021 | 09:58 AM
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This is one of my older time slips. And I mean old!
Old Jan 25, 2021 | 10:00 AM
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Another old time slip.
Old Jan 25, 2021 | 10:05 AM
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Another old time slip.

Now this car has gone much faster in 2002/2003 but I slowed car down to race sportsman and pro . Sportsman back then was 13.00 they later changed tob12.00 then went to 11.50 in sportsman bracket racing.
Old Jan 25, 2021 | 10:18 AM
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Nice.

This set is from the gold car also.

1 time shot. The car was dead on... I was not 😂
Round 1 I passed him up so hard I scrubbed a bunch off.



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Old Jan 25, 2021 | 01:11 PM
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This is one of those 2019 1/8mi races. This weekend was the only race near me.
I did good on light but failed on dial. A win is a win.
Old Jan 25, 2021 | 05:14 PM
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Nice looking Olds! Make no mistake Englishtown is one of the fastest tracks on the planet.
Old Jan 25, 2021 | 06:13 PM
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Englishtown was..Unfortunately its nomore. Great memories there.
Old Jan 25, 2021 | 06:14 PM
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Englishtown was..Unfortunately its nomore. Great memories there.
Very fast track...............
Old Jan 25, 2021 | 06:17 PM
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On the flip side of Englishtown.. the closest track to me is Lebanon valley. They say that one of the slower tracks.
Old Jan 25, 2021 | 06:18 PM
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I have a different take on time slips. First you need a great reaction time. Second on any given day cars run differently and may need tuning and as long as driver is happy with the way the car runs then that is what counts. As a bracket racer good dial and good lights win you races. Its not about how fast you go. It is does the car repeat in performance and how close. I am not into throttle stops not racing in my book. Not into delay buttons if you can't cut a light that's your problem. I don't think fendering is racing if you're that fast race the higher bracket or heads up. I am the foot brake guy who hits the gas and runs it flat out to the finish line. I have been told delay boxes ,throttle stops,ECT will help you win more but I am more of what I call purist. I race sportsman at local tracks 11.50 is the cut off anything lower requires cage/ roll bar. I also race pro class starts at 11.50 and lower. No E is the type of racing to me is for street guys who want to race at tracks on a normal budget . I hate 1/8 mile racing that isn't what drag racing was for. I guess I am old fashion. The last five years of racing for me has been very limited . I hope to change this in 2021 but now I am forced to slow my car down to sportsman class bracket racing as pro is 1/8 mile at local tracks now!2019 was 1/4 everywhere! I have expressed this bs to track management why this isn't drag racing. All it does is help super pro cars on parts management to cut cost. The track management agreed but said they needed car count.

I never dial what the car runs, and I do like to fender race.
Old Jan 25, 2021 | 06:20 PM
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On the flip side of Englishtown.. the closest track to me is Lebanon valley. They say that one of the slower tracks.
Thats the track my customers like to race at...........the slow track.
Old Jan 25, 2021 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by VORTECPRO
I never dial what the car runs, and I do like to fender race.
Why not dial what the car runs? Fendering is chump racing . If you can run your car out the back door then cut a light and get close or on your dial not much of a racer are you.sound like you under dial alot. My thought is if a guy knows his car and know he can cut a light you will not win without your electronics.
Old Jan 25, 2021 | 06:35 PM
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Why not dial what the car runs? Fendering is chump racing . If you can run your car out the back door then cut a light and get close or on your dial not much of a racer are you.sound like you under dial alot. My thought is if a guy knows his car and know he can cut a light you will not win without your electronics.

I don't run electronics, kinda more of a heads up kinda racer but make no mistake I've won my share of bracket races. My problem is I race several different cars.
Old Jan 25, 2021 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by VORTECPRO
I don't run electronics, kinda more of a heads up kinda racer but make no mistake I've won my share of bracket races. My problem is I race several different cars.
I race more than one car.
Old Jan 26, 2021 | 09:05 AM
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I don't run electronics, kinda more of a heads up kinda racer but make no mistake I've won my share of bracket races. My problem is I race several different cars.
Is that on a three tenths index on your heads up? Did I miss your chevy time slip?
Old Jan 26, 2021 | 10:14 AM
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Stop feeding the troll.
Old Jan 26, 2021 | 10:29 AM
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I just need to learn to dial in. Same track Friday and saturday.m Cordova raceway late sept 80 degree days.




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Originally Posted by coppercutlass
I just need to learn to dial in. Same track Friday and saturday.m Cordova raceway late sept 80 degree days.


Thats funny those on the 26th would be easy car runs close . Nice runs.
Old Jan 26, 2021 | 11:06 AM
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The 4500 stall was new as well and I did r get a chance to find the right launch point off the brake.
Old Jan 26, 2021 | 11:13 AM
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The 4500 stall was new as well and I did r get a chance to find the right launch point off the brake.
That shows by your reaction time. That was your problem on Saturday . You got a car that can run consistently if you get your lights more consistent. Get where you do everything the same way. Water box roll in the beam for launch and correct dial. You are really close to winning more often.
Old Jan 26, 2021 | 03:21 PM
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Why not dial what the car runs? Fendering is chump racing . If you can run your car out the back door then cut a light and get close or on your dial not much of a racer are you.sound like you under dial alot. My thought is if a guy knows his car and know he can cut a light you will not win without your electronics.
You will be hard pressed to find any racer who has won a points championship or a big money bracket race that doesn't hold a few numbers and play the finish line. Bracket racing is a game of numbers and the more zeros to the right side of the decimal point the more likely you are to win consistently.
Old Jan 26, 2021 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by chadman
You will be hard pressed to find any racer who has won a points championship or a big money bracket race that doesn't hold a few numbers and play the finish line. Bracket racing is a game of numbers and the more zeros to the right side of the decimal point the more likely you are to win consistently.
I just don't agree with you. I win races and if I had enough money to race a full schedule I think I can run my numbers and cut a light. Other guy's maybe like playing games but I don't consider that racing. When I dial it is what I think the car should run within one hundredth on either side of dial. Then it is up to me to cut a winning reaction time/light. Jmo

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Old Jan 26, 2021 | 03:43 PM
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I just don't agree with you. I win races and if I had enough money I think I can run my numbers and cut a light. Other guy's maybe like playing games but I don't consider that racing.
Winning a round here or there isn't really winning. Have you won a track points championship? Have you won a big money race ($5k+)? A long time ago I used to think like you. Just cut a lite and dial "honest" and run it out the back door. Sure I would win some rounds but after awhile I realized that I was just a sucker and was getting played. If you dial "honest" you only have one chance to win. Miss the tree and the race is over at the starting line.
Old Jan 26, 2021 | 03:57 PM
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This is why I love the fact the local track has an index class. I pretty much want to run the 12.0 index class. Bracket racing I run it straight out the back and that never works. At Cordova I probably had some of the tightest numbers for the BOP race but my lack of experience killed my hopes. I went about 4 rounds after a buy back.
Old Jan 26, 2021 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by chadman
Winning a round here or there isn't really winning. Have you won a track points championship? Have you won a big money race ($5k+)? A long time ago I used to think like you. Just cut a lite and dial "honest" and run it out the back door. Sure I would win some rounds but after awhile I realized that I was just a sucker and was getting played. If you dial "honest" you only have one chance to win. Miss the tree and the race is over at the starting line.
That tells me you have light problems guessing not timing it with your eyes. That is why guys use electronics . Delay boxes make up for guys who have light problems. Also adjustable tranny brake buttons. I have trailered many fast car guys playing games.

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Old Jan 26, 2021 | 04:20 PM
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Chadman what is your best total package in competition? Got a time slip of that race?
Old Jan 26, 2021 | 04:24 PM
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That tells me you have light problems guessing not timing it with your eyes. That is why guys use electronics . Delay boxes make up for guys who have light problems. Also adjustable tranny brake buttons. I have trailered many fast car guys playing games.
You would be wrong and I don't use electronics. Also, racers that win don't "time the lights" with their eyes. If you are running Pro/Mod you react to the bottom bulb and set your car up to give you the reaction time you desire. You adjust the car for your reaction time not the driver. You are free to do as you please but you will win a lot more if you learn how to play the game.
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I love the level of superior overtones in some of theses comments. Here is my take. Racing is both skill and luck. If you ain't racing professionally and making money on it then you are just another amateur in the broad spectrum of drag racing in this case . So the whole argument of skill is kind of bulk and void since pros set the pace.
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Chadman what is your best total package in competition? Got a time slip of that race?
I would have to go look through some time slips to tell you (if I can even find them, not much of a time slip saver). I'm sure it would be from the 2018 season when I won a Summit Super Series points championship in my red 65 foot brake car at Dragway 42. I have not raced the blue 69 yet, only test hits to get used to the car.



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