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Old Sep 14, 2025 | 04:23 PM
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Old Sep 14, 2025 | 04:33 PM
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Do you think this cam would work with a 1972 olds 455 stock intake big valve heads 2.07/1.68 ported bowls and filled and shaped midlle exhaust ports. With W&Z manifolds 2.5 exhaust back. Engine 10.1 roller adj rockers, 750 quadrajet im thinking 109 ls duration @ .050 235/243 lift 501/480 wirh a 2600 convertor. nice rough idle with increased mid. Hp&trq. Thinking he bbo has has plenty of low end power and not looking to twist it over 5600-5800ish. I want to keep the stock intake to work with the factory oai hood set up and for original. PB,A/C car
Can you tell us if this is an automatic or stick car with model info.. more data....??
Old Sep 14, 2025 | 04:40 PM
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Can you tell us if this is an automatic or stick car with model info.. more data....??
Its a 72 H/O stated a/t with air it has the 3:23 rear.
Old Sep 14, 2025 | 04:47 PM
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Bernard, I can't get the link to work?
It works for me?
Stock intake 10.40's
As far as I know this is the fastest 455 Oldsmobile class car.
You can look up Dave Bares 68 Hurst Oldsmobile stocker.

What are your goals?

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Old Sep 14, 2025 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Bernhard
It works for me?
Stock intake 10.40's
As far as I know this is the fastest legal NHRA legal 455 Oldsmobile.
You can look up Dave Bares 68 Hurst Olds stocker.
thats sweet!
Old Sep 14, 2025 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BBLima
108 lobe angle on the lift and duration comes out at a 110 lobe separation not talking about the 113 lb for auto
correct specs for the W31 cam, there is only one.

part #302194 seat to seat
int 40/88 = 308. @.050” 232deg 112 c/l .474”
ex 86/42 =308. @ .050” 232deg 114 c/l .474”
113 LSA , 82 deg overlap.

the biggest W30 manual cam #402569
int 56/92 = 328. @.050” 244deg 108 c/l .475”
ex 96/52 = 328. @.050” 244deg 112 c/l .475”
110 LSA , 108 deg overlap
Old Sep 14, 2025 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by CANADIANOLDS
correct specs for the W31 cam, there is only one.

part #302194 seat to seat
int 40/88 = 308. @.050” 232deg 112 c/l .474”
ex 86/42 =308. @ .050” 232deg 114 c/l .474”
113 LSA , 82 deg overlap.

the biggest W30 manual cam #402569
int 56/92 = 328. @.050” 244deg 108 c/l .475”
ex 96/52 = 328. @.050” 244deg 112 c/l .475”
110 LSA , 108 deg overlap
exactly that's the cam.
Old Sep 14, 2025 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Bernhard
It works for me?
Stock intake 10.40's
As far as I know this is the fastest 455 Oldsmobile class car.
You can look up Dave Bares 68 Hurst Oldsmobile stocker.

What are your goals?
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My goals, just an everyday cruiser, with a choppy idle amd pulls good from 1500-5500 5800. Ish.
Old Sep 14, 2025 | 06:26 PM
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My goals, just an everyday cruiser, with a choppy idle amd pulls good from 1500-5500 5800. Ish.
from 1500? , you better calm down your cam choice then. you never said 1500 before.

I would keep your .050” numbers 230 max on intake and 235 ex. go tight with your LSA like 110 or 108 and put the 108 in at +2 , the 110 at +4

pick one with the most lift there is.
Old Sep 14, 2025 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Bernhard
It works for me?
Stock intake 10.40's
As far as I know this is the fastest 455 Oldsmobile class car.
You can look up Dave Bares 68 Hurst Oldsmobile stocker.

What are your goals?
This ones just a little bit slower, but it's 12 tears older. I'm pretty sure Daves Bares car uses NHRA legal Edelbrock heads.
Old Sep 14, 2025 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by CANADIANOLDS
from 1500? , you better calm down your cam choice then. you never said 1500 before.

I would keep your .050” numbers 230 max on intake and 235 ex. go tight with your LSA like 110 or 108 and put the 108 in at +2 , the 110 at +4

pick one with the most lift there is.
thank you. Ya disregard the 1500 , im looking for the mid power and the 230/235 is where I need to be . I Wish the engle cam jm22-25 110ls. This would be a good fit.

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Old Sep 14, 2025 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by VORTECPRO
This ones just a little bit slower, but it's 12 tears older. I'm pretty sure Daves Bares car uses NHRA legal Edelbrock heads.
https://youtu.be/yIit2Oht-78?si=34gbgwfQxRYKeZaP
Mark that is a valid point. Do you know how fast Danny ran?
Old Sep 14, 2025 | 08:43 PM
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Mark that is a valid point. Do you know how fast Danny ran?
!0.50s @ 122.8 but that was at MIR, much quicker than Brainerd. I was hoping the OP would have given us some examples of NA production parts Olds power.
Old Sep 15, 2025 | 06:29 PM
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!0.50s @ 122.8 but that was at MIR, much quicker than Brainerd. I was hoping the OP would have given us some examples of NA production parts Olds power.
That's impressive 11.50's with iron heads. I'm sure there has been advancements in stoker engine development in the last 12 years as well.
Old Sep 16, 2025 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by VORTECPRO
This ones just a little bit slower, but it's 12 tears older. I'm pretty sure Daves Bares car uses NHRA legal Edelbrock heads.
https://youtu.be/yIit2Oht-78?si=34gbgwfQxRYKeZaP
Saw Dave’s car at the oca nats, it has iron heads
Old Sep 16, 2025 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DR_DAN
Saw Dave’s car at the oca nats, it has iron heads
Nice!

Old Sep 17, 2025 | 07:50 AM
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I run Bullet's version of the W31 "308" cam in my 455... 233/233@0.050, but on a 112LSA instead of 113. Makes plenty of torque with iron heads, exhaust manifolds and 2.5" exhaust... I think it was 530 lb-ft. Didn't make much for power up top, 440-445 but falls off hard over 5200... I think it is the lifters bleeding off though. I wouldn't classify the idle as "nasty", just a mild chop. For performance if I was doing it again, I would widen the LSA.

Olds didn't design their W series cams for use with exhaust manifolds, they were intended for racers that were going to switch to headers right away.
Old Sep 19, 2025 | 12:17 PM
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Has Anyone have suggestions to make a stock cast intake gain some top end power range? I heard/seen on here cutting out the plenum but didn't see any results on it or if it was pure track.
Is it even worth doing mods to it for street. And when I say street, i like to throw the hammer down especially when a good tune comes on! So maybe street/strip application lol
Old Sep 20, 2025 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by BBLima
Has Anyone have suggestions to make a stock cast intake gain some top end power range? I heard/seen on here cutting out the plenum but didn't see any results on it or if it was pure track.
Is it even worth doing mods to it for street. And when I say street, i like to throw the hammer down especially when a good tune comes on! So maybe street/strip application lol
Factory intake power................
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...-build-149649/
Old Sep 20, 2025 | 01:07 PM
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Factory intake power................
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...-build-149649/
dam, I guess I dont have to do anything to it! Nice numbers pulled out of it. Was that carb reworked, or stock . What Was the max hp/trq numbers at rpm. I seen them impressive on a stock intake.
thanks for the link!

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Old Sep 20, 2025 | 01:40 PM
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Page wouldn't load. The '72 Cutlass in my avatar, formerly owned by Doug Patrick, and built at my shop in 2001, ran 11.42 @ 114+ mph. This was an NHRA legal 350 Olds engine, 9:1 compression, 0.400" lift hydraulic flat tappet cam, cast iron factory intake, quadrajet combination.
Old Sep 20, 2025 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ROCKETMAN269V
Page wouldn't load. The '72 Cutlass in my avatar, formerly owned by Doug Patrick, and built at my shop in 2001, ran 11.42 @ 114+ mph. This was an NHRA legal 350 Olds engine, 9:1 compression, 0.400" lift hydraulic flat tappet cam, cast iron factory intake, quadrajet combination.
You might have to be logged onto Facebook for the link to work. Thanks for posting about the small block stocker very cool.
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