1964 394 cui STD Main/rod bearings needed

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Old Jun 4, 2018 | 11:26 AM
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1964 394 cui STD Main/rod bearings needed

Maybe I am lucky somebody have these bearing so I can have engine put back together??
Or know of somebody who have...

Thanks

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Old Jun 4, 2018 | 12:27 PM
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Fusick has them
http://www.fusickautomotiveproducts....s.asp?dept=979
Old Jun 4, 2018 | 12:39 PM
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Try EGGE
Old Jun 4, 2018 | 01:14 PM
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Rock auto lists rod bearings under 64 98. No mains?
Old Jun 4, 2018 | 02:30 PM
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Try EGGE

Did write EGGE so far... havent heard from them yet.
Old Jun 4, 2018 | 02:31 PM
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Yes to rod bearings, but mains no, as far as I can see
Old Jun 4, 2018 | 02:33 PM
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Rock auto lists rod bearings under 64 98. No mains?
No mains seems to be the problem all over

I would hate have the crank machined when its perfect....
Old Jun 4, 2018 | 03:26 PM
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I just ordered mains from Falcon Global Performance (along with other parts) and had to get -.010 as they don't have std in stock for my 62 394 starfire. I'm having the crank ground to suit -010 on both mains and rods. They should be the same for your engine.
Old Jun 4, 2018 | 03:35 PM
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Yes to rod bearings, but mains no, as far as I can see
Towards the bottom there are .010 and .020 mains pn#s MB7-.010/020. Standard, MB7-STD, they say call for availability.
Old Jun 4, 2018 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Oldskeeper
I just ordered mains from Falcon Global Performance (along with other parts) and had to get -.010 as they don't have std in stock for my 62 394 starfire. I'm having the crank ground to suit -010 on both mains and rods. They should be the same for your engine.

Again no std size

I did actually ask Falcon when my project startet some time ago, he answered what std size was, which I found wierd , seen from my point of wiew (but to be honest I very rarely order engine bearings). But it doesnt matter as he also havent got std size mains.
Old Jun 4, 2018 | 03:36 PM
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EGGE just replied... mains are no go!
Old Jun 4, 2018 | 04:56 PM
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Charlie Jones may have some sources. There is also Ross Racing Engines.....
www.rossracingengines.com (330) 544-4466


No sense grinding a crank to fit bearings unless you have to. Good luck.
Old Jun 4, 2018 | 08:29 PM
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Standard size bearings are hard to find for almost any engine .
That's because anyone that re-builds an engine is usually going to need to grind the crankshaft at least .010 or more .
Unless your crankshaft is PERFECT and within .001 of factory specs for size , out of roundness , and straightness . I would recommend that you have it ground .010 undersize .

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Old Jun 5, 2018 | 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Charlie Jones
Standard size bearings are hard to find for almost any engine .
That's because anyone that re-builds an engine is usually going to need to grind the crankshaft at least .010 or more .
Unless your crankshaft is PERFECT and within .001 of factory specs for size , out of roundness , and straightness . I would recommend that you have it ground .010 undersize .
According to engine builder, it IS perfect. Its straight and balanced etc ....

I already talked to Tony at RossRacingEngines, and he cant source them at this time.
Old Jun 5, 2018 | 05:36 AM
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Grinding .010 off a 394 crankshaft will not effect how the engine runs or horsepower, or you can keep trying to source them out and wait and wait and one day they might show up some where. But by that time you will have lost a year or some of the other parts that are laying around the shop. Grinding the crank and getting the engine back into the car so you can drive it might be the best choice here. On the block of some of the 394 engines is stamped an X or XX which stood for -.010 on rods and rods and crankshaft.
Just my thoughts as I tried to source std mains before having the crank ground.
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Old Jun 5, 2018 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Oldskeeper
Grinding .010 off a 394 crankshaft will not effect how the engine runs or horsepower, or you can keep trying to source them out and wait and wait and one day they might show up some where. But by that time you will have lost a year or some of the other parts that are laying around the shop. Grinding the crank and getting the engine back into the car so you can drive it might be the best choice here. On the block of some of the 394 engines is stamped an X or XX which stood for -.010 on rods and rods and crankshaft.
Just my thoughts as I tried to source std mains before having the crank ground.
Steve
You are correct, I just think its a shame grinding a perfect crank. I keep getting no go from whom ever I ask. And I will not wait a year, then it will be ground.
Thank you for your input
Old Jun 5, 2018 | 09:31 AM
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Towards the bottom there are .010 and .020 mains pn#s MB7-.010/020. Standard, MB7-STD, they say call for availability.

I have talked to them.. std mains not available.
Old Jun 5, 2018 | 10:37 AM
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Jan, my crank was perfect and didn't need grinding either, rods needed one journal ground so I had them ground .010 under and couldn't find stock mains so had to bite the bullet and have the mains ground too. Not what I wanted but the original main bearings were not to my liking so went with new. Now this engine will be as good as new and last my lifetime.
Steve
Old Jun 5, 2018 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Oldskeeper
Jan, my crank was perfect and didn't need grinding either, rods needed one journal ground so I had them ground .010 under and couldn't find stock mains so had to bite the bullet and have the mains ground too. Not what I wanted but the original main bearings were not to my liking so went with new. Now this engine will be as good as new and last my lifetime.
Steve

Yes Steve.. and I believe that story is me in a short while
Old Jun 6, 2018 | 11:56 AM
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Would there by any chance be someone that would be able to look up, what the OE Oldsmobile part no. for the STD mains and rod bearings would be??

If not to much trouble, I would as always appriciate your help, as this would be a last call for me finding these bearings.
Old Jun 6, 2018 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Jandk
Would there by any chance be someone that would be able to look up, what the OE Oldsmobile part no. for the STD mains and rod bearings would be??

If not to much trouble, I would as always appriciate your help, as this would be a last call for me finding these bearings.
Front main bearing ;
Std . 5458543
.0005 5458544
.001 5458545

Intermediate bearings ;
Std. 5458657
.0005 5458658
.001 5458659

Rear main bearing ;
Std. 5458324
.0005 5458325
.001 5458326

Depending on the amount of crankshaft wear , you may be able to use .0005 or .001 undersize bearings , If you can find them .

Good luck !
Old Jun 7, 2018 | 08:53 AM
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Front main bearing ;
Std . 5458543
.0005 5458544
.001 5458545

Intermediate bearings ;
Std. 5458657
.0005 5458658
.001 5458659

Rear main bearing ;
Std. 5458324
.0005 5458325
.001 5458326

Depending on the amount of crankshaft wear , you may be able to use .0005 or .001 undersize bearings , If you can find them .

Good luck !
Oh man... thats amazing. THANKS

Correct me if I am wrong, but intermediate bearings has nothing to do with the rod ?? I am not confident with the word “intermediate”.
Old Jun 7, 2018 | 05:01 PM
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Oh man... thats amazing. THANKS

Correct me if I am wrong, but intermediate bearings has nothing to do with the rod ?? I am not confident with the word “intermediate”.
"Intermediate " are main bearings #2 , 3 , and 4 .


Sorry for the omission . The rod bearing numbers are;

Standard 5471226

.002 undersize 5458314
Old Jun 8, 2018 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Charlie Jones
"Intermediate " are main bearings #2 , 3 , and 4 .


Sorry for the omission . The rod bearing numbers are;

Standard 5471226

.002 undersize 5458314
Dont be sorry.. all forgiven.

I appriciate your input, thank you for taking your time. It was a big help for my parts pusher, but unfortunently there where no bearings for me.

I will process the machining of my crank to end this project.

Have a nice weekend every body
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