exhaust manifold
November 3rd, 2009, 12:03 PM
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Howdy Guys,
I'm looking for a 1961 Oldsmobile L/H (drivers side) exhaust manifold for a 394 engine.I'm also looking for the generator bracket and the two studs that hold it down for the same engine.
Thanks
Bush
I'm looking for a 1961 Oldsmobile L/H (drivers side) exhaust manifold for a 394 engine.I'm also looking for the generator bracket and the two studs that hold it down for the same engine.
Thanks
Bush
November 3rd, 2009, 12:09 PM
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Bush, are you looking for the driver's side dual exhaust manifold? If so this is a rare piece and you will have to look for quite awhile to find one. If you just want a standard manifold for the driver's side there might be a member on our site that has a spare. 2blu442 has quite a few parts. Send him a PrivateMessage and ask if he has anything you could use.
November 3rd, 2009, 03:02 PM
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Hey Guys,
Thanks for the speedy replies to my search. I'll give you alittle info as to what I'm doing. The car is a 58 oldsmobile with a 371 engine and the guy that it was bought off of was doing the restore.He sold it before it was done with only the frame finished.The engine he bought off a guy that rebuilt it for a race car of some sort.The engine has 394 heads on it I gather because they have larger ports.So yes I'm looking for just a regular drivers side exhaust manifold. I will try an attach a picture of what it looks like.!BdgIwEQBmk~$(KGrHqMH-C8ErfzEe+2ZBK5L0Fto-w~~_12.jpg
Thanks for the speedy replies to my search. I'll give you alittle info as to what I'm doing. The car is a 58 oldsmobile with a 371 engine and the guy that it was bought off of was doing the restore.He sold it before it was done with only the frame finished.The engine he bought off a guy that rebuilt it for a race car of some sort.The engine has 394 heads on it I gather because they have larger ports.So yes I'm looking for just a regular drivers side exhaust manifold. I will try an attach a picture of what it looks like.!BdgIwEQBmk~$(KGrHqMH-C8ErfzEe+2ZBK5L0Fto-w~~_12.jpg
November 5th, 2009, 09:25 AM
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The #20 cylinder head you have there is a 1961 non Starfire head. Was this combo you have running at one point? Because I find it hard to believe you can put a later 394 head on a '57 - '58 371. I thought the drain back holes for the oil did not line up? Are you positive its not a '59 - '64 371??
November 11th, 2009, 09:32 PM
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If you got this number off the left cylinder head between the #3 and #5 spark plug holes, double check the letter 'P' isnt a letter 'F'. Also stick your head in back of the block on top where the transmission meets the engine block. If you see a 4 1/8 in raised numerals, you got a 394. Oh, and an easier way to somewhat determine the year...Does it have a downdraft tube coming from the back of the block or coming out of the valve cover hole on the passenger side?
November 15th, 2009, 05:17 PM
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The engine has the breather hole at the back of the block so that makes it a 371 but unsure of the year.The numbers I got came off the block by the water pump.Anyone know what year the block is or how to find that out?
Thanks
Bush
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Bush
December 28th, 2009, 12:33 PM
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year of Engine
Last edited by J-(Chicago); December 28th, 2009 at 12:46 PM.
December 28th, 2009, 12:51 PM
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Try this guy.
He posted this ad up this week.
WANT OTHER STUFF FOR YOUR OLD 394 OLDS...?
HEY - YOU'VE JUST HIT PAY DIRT, PAL!
'CAUSE I'VE GOT BOAT-LOADS OF OLD OLDS BITS STASHED UNDER MY BED, JUST WAITING ON YA!
SO GRAB YOUR PHONE AND RING MY BELL!
I'M JOHNNY ROSEN IN PHOENIX, ARIZONA.
AND HERE'S MY NUMBER:
(602) 569-1010.
He posted this ad up this week.
WANT OTHER STUFF FOR YOUR OLD 394 OLDS...?
HEY - YOU'VE JUST HIT PAY DIRT, PAL!
'CAUSE I'VE GOT BOAT-LOADS OF OLD OLDS BITS STASHED UNDER MY BED, JUST WAITING ON YA!
SO GRAB YOUR PHONE AND RING MY BELL!
I'M JOHNNY ROSEN IN PHOENIX, ARIZONA.
AND HERE'S MY NUMBER:
(602) 569-1010.
December 28th, 2009, 04:51 PM
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clock face
howdy guys,
I seen that clock face on the back of the block by the distribitor and not sure which way to look at it. The clock face doesn't have numbers it just has dots. So if i stand at the front of the engine and lean over and look at the clock the pointer points at about 3, and if standing at the back of the engine the pointer points at 9 oclock...there is also a second dot outside the other dots that make the circle. Theres also a C F D in raised lettering also back there. So hope that helps someone figure out what year this engine is.
Bush
I seen that clock face on the back of the block by the distribitor and not sure which way to look at it. The clock face doesn't have numbers it just has dots. So if i stand at the front of the engine and lean over and look at the clock the pointer points at about 3, and if standing at the back of the engine the pointer points at 9 oclock...there is also a second dot outside the other dots that make the circle. Theres also a C F D in raised lettering also back there. So hope that helps someone figure out what year this engine is.
Bush
December 28th, 2009, 04:54 PM
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Caution !!!
Try this guy.
He posted this ad up this week.
WANT OTHER STUFF FOR YOUR OLD 394 OLDS...?
HEY - YOU'VE JUST HIT PAY DIRT, PAL!
'CAUSE I'VE GOT BOAT-LOADS OF OLD OLDS BITS STASHED UNDER MY BED, JUST WAITING ON YA!
SO GRAB YOUR PHONE AND RING MY BELL!
I'M JOHNNY ROSEN IN PHOENIX, ARIZONA.
AND HERE'S MY NUMBER:
(602) 569-1010.
He posted this ad up this week.
WANT OTHER STUFF FOR YOUR OLD 394 OLDS...?
HEY - YOU'VE JUST HIT PAY DIRT, PAL!
'CAUSE I'VE GOT BOAT-LOADS OF OLD OLDS BITS STASHED UNDER MY BED, JUST WAITING ON YA!
SO GRAB YOUR PHONE AND RING MY BELL!
I'M JOHNNY ROSEN IN PHOENIX, ARIZONA.
AND HERE'S MY NUMBER:
(602) 569-1010.
He's been around for awhile but be "pre warned" about what you buy from Mr. Quick Draw..... PM Oldskeeper he also knows good ol' Johnny and his Starfire Emporium !!!
December 28th, 2009, 05:02 PM
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Clock Face ??
howdy guys,
I seen that clock face on the back of the block by the distributor and not sure which way to look at it. The clock face doesn't have numbers it just has dots. So if i stand at the front of the engine and lean over and look at the clock the pointer points at about 3, and if standing at the back of the engine the pointer points at 9 o'clock...there is also a second dot outside the other dots that make the circle. There's also a C F D in raised lettering also back there. So hope that helps someone figure out what year this engine is.
Bush
I seen that clock face on the back of the block by the distributor and not sure which way to look at it. The clock face doesn't have numbers it just has dots. So if i stand at the front of the engine and lean over and look at the clock the pointer points at about 3, and if standing at the back of the engine the pointer points at 9 o'clock...there is also a second dot outside the other dots that make the circle. There's also a C F D in raised lettering also back there. So hope that helps someone figure out what year this engine is.
Bush
December 28th, 2009, 05:47 PM
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On a 394 engine the clock tells you what month the engine was cast and the model year is cast in large numbers so looking at it from behind you can read 63 and the arrow points to september .This engine is an early model year engine for 63.
On the front of the block where the timing cover (cast Aluminum) housing bolts on you may also see an X or a double X stamped,this tells you that the block was oversized or the crank is -.010 under.
Now as far as hundred dollar Johnney goes,I have been dealing with him since the late 80s,I have even purchased a car from him.
He is a very interesting person having said that if you are looking for a hard to get part and can't find it chances are he will have one.But as Chequenman says be forwarned you are dealing with a special kind of person and listen CAREFULLY to every word he says to discribe the part and DO NOT take anything for granted.
The part in question will be discribed as if you were sitting in a Sheaksphere play with elequence and grandure and you will form an image in your mind of said part.Once you have sent him the money you will get the part and if it doesn't seem right it will be exactly as described but not what your minds eye saw,he does NOT refund cash you can only get another part and it will be the next best part on the shelf.
All of my dealings have gone well and I got what I paid for cause I never took his discription for anything other than what it was.Other people have made mention of his quality,here is how I see it-first come first served as in if your cheque is recieved third or tenth the first person gets the best and the second person gets the next best as it is now the best piece and so on down the line.
Good luck with your project
Steve
On the front of the block where the timing cover (cast Aluminum) housing bolts on you may also see an X or a double X stamped,this tells you that the block was oversized or the crank is -.010 under.
Now as far as hundred dollar Johnney goes,I have been dealing with him since the late 80s,I have even purchased a car from him.
He is a very interesting person having said that if you are looking for a hard to get part and can't find it chances are he will have one.But as Chequenman says be forwarned you are dealing with a special kind of person and listen CAREFULLY to every word he says to discribe the part and DO NOT take anything for granted.
The part in question will be discribed as if you were sitting in a Sheaksphere play with elequence and grandure and you will form an image in your mind of said part.Once you have sent him the money you will get the part and if it doesn't seem right it will be exactly as described but not what your minds eye saw,he does NOT refund cash you can only get another part and it will be the next best part on the shelf.
All of my dealings have gone well and I got what I paid for cause I never took his discription for anything other than what it was.Other people have made mention of his quality,here is how I see it-first come first served as in if your cheque is recieved third or tenth the first person gets the best and the second person gets the next best as it is now the best piece and so on down the line.
Good luck with your project
Steve
December 28th, 2009, 07:48 PM
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I see nothing, I know nothing!!!
[quote=Oldskeeper;135214]On a 394 engine the clock tells you what month the engine was cast and the model year is cast in large numbers so looking at it from behind you can read 63 and the arrow points to september .This engine is an early model year engine for 63.
On my 394's they have a single digit number only, cast near the Clock Face, identifing the year....
On my 394's they have a single digit number only, cast near the Clock Face, identifing the year....
December 29th, 2009, 10:34 AM
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Remember about shimming the engine...
December 30th, 2009, 08:12 PM
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January 23rd, 2010, 01:06 AM
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I have lots of '62 394 parts including a pair of regular (single) exhaust manifolds. Not sure if the 61 & 62 are the same, but I'll compare it to your pic above.
Edit: OK I checked it and it looks similar, but has casting #579279LH. I also have the RH manifold and a complete Kepitch dual exhaust conversion all the way back to the tailpipes. Never used, but covered in surface light surface rust from about 25 years of storage. The system was built for a '62, but I think it may work for a '61 also.
Edit: OK I checked it and it looks similar, but has casting #579279LH. I also have the RH manifold and a complete Kepitch dual exhaust conversion all the way back to the tailpipes. Never used, but covered in surface light surface rust from about 25 years of storage. The system was built for a '62, but I think it may work for a '61 also.
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January 26th, 2010, 06:18 AM
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Block was cast on the 63rd day of 1961, or March 4th. So it would have been installed in a '61 model year car.
January 26th, 2010, 06:31 AM
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So yes I'm looking for just a regular drivers side exhaust manifold. I will try an attach a picture of what it looks like.Attachment 10493
I see it's copied from eBay. Did you just post it for an idea of what you wanted? The manifolds I have are the correct ones for '61-62. I'll post a pic later today.
January 26th, 2010, 03:36 PM
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Yes , the pic I got was off ebay and was just to show what I am looking for.I'm looking forward to seeing those pics of the manifolds.Anyone know of a oil filter adapter that comes off the block and makes a 90* turn instead of the 45* I already have?
Thanks Bush
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