1965 Jetstar 88: drum brake spindle wanted

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Old June 9th, 2021 | 01:13 AM
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1965 Jetstar 88: drum brake spindle wanted

Hello, i am writing form germany. I am a owner of a Oldsmobile Jetstar 88, build 1965, convertible I have to make some restaurations. I need for the front wheels the drum brake spindle. And the anchor plate where the brake cylinders are mounted on. thanx for your help. Andi

i have baught this items on ebay.com but they doesnt fit! :-(

This is a picture of my Jetstar 88

my Jetstar 88
Old June 9th, 2021 | 06:02 AM
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if they are the same as a cutlass i have a pair from 65 cutlass.
Old June 9th, 2021 | 07:07 AM
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if they are the same as a cutlass i have a pair from 65 cutlass.
They are not.
Old June 9th, 2021 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by steve-kartoffel
Hello, i am writing form germany. I am a owner of a Oldsmobile Jetstar 88, build 1965, convertible I have to make some restaurations. I need for the front wheels the drum brake spindle. And the anchor plate where the brake cylinders are mounted on. thanx for your help. Andi
Unfortunately, the parts you need are unique to the 1965-66 Jetstar 88 only. NOTHING else interchanges, and you won't find new ones anywhere. There is virtually no market for these parts, so no one makes replacements. I'm assuming that you had a bearing go bad and it damaged the spindle? If you can't find a good used one, your only other option is to have your damaged one welded and remachined. The reality is that the spindle surface that the bearing rides on isn't that critical, since the bearing inner race is the actual surface that the rollers ride on. Sorry I don't have better news.

Note also that your driver side spindle has a hole bored in it for the speedometer cable. Be sure the replacement has this feature. The passenger side spindle will not have this.
Old June 9th, 2021 | 12:02 PM
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I might have what you need from a parts car 65 Jetstar I have. Drop me a line direct at dead@mchsi.com. Regards Pat
Old June 9th, 2021 | 12:05 PM
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I might have what you need from a parts car 65 Jetstar I have. Drop me a line direct at dead@mchsi.com. Regards Pat
Not if it's a Jetstar I. Again, ONLY 1965-66 Jetstar 88 spindles work. NOTHING else fits.
Old June 9th, 2021 | 12:39 PM
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Correct, it’s an 88 I have not a Jetstar 1.
Old June 9th, 2021 | 12:41 PM
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Correct, it’s an 88 I have not a Jetstar 1.
You typed Jetstar I in your first post.
Old June 9th, 2021 | 03:12 PM
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It’s not a 1, it’s a capital i.🤪
Old June 10th, 2021 | 06:55 AM
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Hey guys. Thanks for your answers.

But first i have to check if
a) the items are the same as a cutlass

or
b) ONLY 1965-66 Jetstar 88 spindles work. NOTHING else fits

What is right?

And any ideas where i get the spindles?!

The Spindle is a little bit damaged because the bearing was damaged. But however that is not the main problem. The main problem is, the bolt of the spindle is no longer straight. it is bent upwards. This has the consequence that on this side of the vehicle (the right side) the car has a knock-kneed leg (X-Leg). I hope you understand what I mean by that. As a result, the breaking effect is not sufficient. Because the brake shoes do not brake on the full shoe surface. And the car pulls to the left when braking. As a result, I don't get a TÜV (a german instution. You have to go all 2 years to the TÜV and they are looking that the car is save enough. And if not it is not allowed to drive the car)
Old June 10th, 2021 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by steve-kartoffel
But first i have to check if
a) the items are the same as a cutlass

or
b) ONLY 1965-66 Jetstar 88 spindles work. NOTHING else fits

What is right?
What is "right" is that you should stop "crowdsourcing" your information from the interwebs and check the factory parts book. 5200 series is the Jetstar 88. Note that not only is the P/N different for the F85 cars, but the J88 uses different RH/LH spindles (which I told you above) vs. the F85 cars where they are the same on both sides. That alone should tell you that the F85/Cutlass parts don't work.



Old June 11th, 2021 | 11:20 PM
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I have what you need from a 65 Jetstar 88... Already pulled and can send pictures. PM sent.

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Old June 12th, 2021 | 05:46 PM
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Here are the unpulled sides. Let me know.



Old June 13th, 2021 | 01:20 AM
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@ joe_padavano:
What is a "factory parts book" and where can I find it? What can I do with the numbers? Thanx for your great support, so I can save a lot of time!

@
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thanx for your message. I have replied it.

@ deaddds:
thanx for your pictures. I had written an email to you but got no answer. Can you send me a private message on this forum? Are the spindles okay?
Old June 13th, 2021 | 01:24 AM
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a little update I got from my mechanic: the bolt of the spindle is not bent.

The bearing was damaged and rubbed a little bit of metal of the bold off. So it isnt possible, that the bearing fit exactly.
Old June 13th, 2021 | 01:28 AM
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@ joe_padavano:
What is a "factory parts book" and where can I find it? What can I do with the numbers? Thanx for your great support, so I can save a lot of time!

@ 65B01Delta:
thanx for your message. I have replied it.

@ deaddds:
thanx for your pictures. I had written an email to you but got no answer. Can you send me a private message on this forum? Are the spindles okay?
Old June 13th, 2021 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by steve-kartoffel
@ joe_padavano:
What is a "factory parts book" and where can I find it? What can I do with the numbers? Thanx for your great support, so I can save a lot of time!
The factory parts book is what the dealership parts department used to look up a part number when you walked in to buy a replacement part. These are the factory replacement part numbers and applications.




Old June 13th, 2021 | 08:22 PM
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Sent a message but must be lost. Other than the wheels turn I cant say. I havent disassembled the front end and it will take some time to work them apart. Its a weekend project at best due to my work schedule.
Old June 20th, 2021 | 07:49 AM
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joe_padavano:

i dont know any part-dealer who use this book.

can you tell me which dealer use this book? And if I get the parts there.

thanx
Old June 20th, 2021 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by steve-kartoffel
joe_padavano:

i dont know any part-dealer who use this book.

can you tell me which dealer use this book? And if I get the parts there.

thanx
This is the book used by the OLDSMOBILE dealership parts department. Since the last Oldsmobile dealership closed in 2004, you aren't going to find anyone who uses it. What it does for you is that it tells you what part numbers the factory used for each configuration. Many vendors can cross reference the factory part numbers with their replacement part numbers. For this discussion, that is irrelevant because no one makes replacement spindles for your application. The purpose of posting this information is to once again prove to you that the spindles are unique to the 1965-66 Jetstar 88 models, since you keep asking the question.
Old June 20th, 2021 | 02:59 PM
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Thanks to our member " 68 rocket action " who put these Oldsmobile parts books in PDF form and made them available for free download .
On these threads :
Thru 1975 - Oldsmobile Chassis and Body Parts Catalog - ClassicOldsmobile.com
1970 Oldsmobile Parts Illustration Manual (Chassis & Body) - ClassicOldsmobile.com
Old June 20th, 2021 | 04:07 PM
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I appreciate that effort, but again be aware that the further you get from the model year, the greater the likelihood that the parts you're interested in were dropped from the parts network. I have a copy of the Sept 1968 book, for example. There's also a Jan 1972 version available online at gmpartswiki.com.

http://www.t.gmpartswiki.com/getpage?pageid=89287
Old June 20th, 2021 | 08:29 PM
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1965 Jetstar 88: drum brake spindle wanted

Here's what I have removed for a 1965 Jetstar 88, I will separate.


Old February 3rd, 2022 | 02:54 PM
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Steve, Can you post a picture of both front brake assemblies without the drums installed? We may see something that is being missed.

Good luck!!!
Old February 3rd, 2022 | 04:43 PM
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steve-kartoffel,
Be rest assured, that you MUST follow exactly what Joe Padavano tells you --- you don't want to have a bunch of Wrong / Useless Parts...
And a lot of extra shipping charges to pay....

Our leader Joe P. ALWAYS gives 100 % perfect advice !!!
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