kds 69 442

Looking for (ideally new) master cylinder and voltage regulator for a 1935 Oldsmobile F35 . 210-286-5702 Any leads appreciated.

citcapp

Have you tried here

http://www.fusick.com/catfile/Catalog%20560.pdf

kds 69 442

Well, I thought I had. Went all through that cataloge already but took another look and sure enough, there is the master cylinder. Not so lucky with the voltage regulator though. Only goes back to 1936. Thanks for the tip. Got any more thoughts?

oldcutlass

If anyone knows of the correct Delco part # of the regulator it would help dramatically.

stellar

Are you looking for an original regulator?

Tedd Thompson

Doubtful if there would be any functional difference between a 35 and a 36 voltage regulator but if you are looking for period correct or points type restoration there might be a different cosmetic or bolt pattern differences,probably no one would notice and I won't tell if you don't ...Tedd

citcapp

I am with Tedd on this. I don't believe there would be any difference because the amp draw for accessories is not any difference between the two years and that is what changes the settings in the regulator

oldcutlass

There have been multiple part #'s for 35-39, you'd think they would be the same for all BOP systems and some Chevy's.

2blu442

I've got a handful of NOS vintage AC Delco stuff, pre-WWII still sealed in the original containers, orange cardboard sides black metal top and bottom. I've got voltage regulator number 1118309 which a google search shows as fitting 1936-39 Chevy and Oldsmobile. Then also a 1118203 which comes up as 1937-39 Chevy application. If either of these would work for you they're available.


Also I've got dozens of wheel cylinders, master cylinders and parts to rebuild NOS, same vintage. I got all this at an estate sale several years ago, and had the applications keyed out but have lost track of my spread sheet.
John

stellar

Either should work 203 or 309. One has extra terminals that won't be used. Aftermarket are available, but I would recomend the OE if price is not an issue. If using an aftermarket, a unit made in India is superior to China or US made units and I really hate to say that. OE will be the best Quality.

oldcutlass

PM sent

oldcutlass

I did the compatibility check and it says it's not compatible with the 1935 Olds F35. I am not familiar in what the difference is between all the different pn's of the Delco VRs, 1118213, 1118203, 1118315, 1118309 etc. Are they all wired internally the same and the only difference is output? Can someone enlighten me?

2blu442

OK, here's a bunch of pictures to compare with the old one. Also the instruction sheet has some different numbers that have 6 or 12 volt, positive or negative grounded battery. One of those might be the difference. John

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citcapp

Here is one on E-bay for a Pontiac. This will be the same as the Oldsmobile I believe.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1935-36-37-3...p2047675.l2557

oldcutlass

Here are some pictures of the MC. I believe it may have been replaced with a non OEM unit and replumbed.

2blu442

Well, I dug out the brake stuff and found I've got over 100 wheel cylinders but only a few master cylinders. Sorry, none look like the one on the 1935 and I wasn't able to key them out by googling the numbers. Here's what I've got:

Delco 5450655
Delco 5454137
Delco 5450259 or 53
Then brand called EIS that says on the box 1953-54 Chrylser/Desoto

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I've got a bunch of rebuild kit parts too, but not knowing what numbers would be correct it would be tough to figure out if I had what's needed.

oldcutlass

Weeeeeeell none of those look like they will mount using the original position or the current one.

oldcutlass

I want to take this opportunity to thank 2blu442 for his help and supplying a voltage regulator for Keith's 35. It was as described and worked perfectly.


Keith and I took 2 steps forward and 1 step back today. We installed the new master cylinder and bled the brakes. As mentioned above installed new voltage regulator and all else tested well.


The step back was we bought and installed a rebuilt Stromberg Ex22 carb a month ago that apparently was rebuilt a long time ago with non ethanol compliant rubber pieces. We knew it had been rebuilt long ago but took a chance as Keith wanted it running for the Fredericksburg Texas meet. Needless to say Murphy's law is still alive and well and a compliant rebuild kit will soon be on order. When we rebuild the carb, we are going to rebuild the fuel/vacuum pump at the same time.


Next we are going to drop the fuel tank to clean it up and find and repair the leaks.

kds 69 442

Eric beat me to it! Thanks John, like Eric said the voltage reg worked like a champ. Wish all the world's problems could be resolved that easy. The ol car is really coming along.

After Eric left today, I cranked the 35 and backed it out of workshop. Actually sounds much better than it did this afternoon. We put some fuel treatment in the gas tank and ran long enough to cycle thru carb. Sat for a few hours and it really does run better now, not the long term fix but ......

Thanks Eric, this project would still be in its infancy if you weren't working your magic

oldcutlass

Your quite welcome, it's been a lot of fun playing with you.

kds 69 442

Sorry for the hiatus, been overcome by other commitments lately (namely work). As an update on our 1935 project.......charging system now in good shape, brakes now in good shape, overall mechanicals in good shape. NEED a gas tank. When parked in my metal barn the gas odor is very strong. Gas runs out of tank on ground if tank is more than 1/2 full and seeps out if less than half. I'm not a genius but even I can figure out there is a hole. Pulled tank yesterday and took it for cleaning. Was told there is no hope (at least not for a reasonable price). Wondering if anyone has substituted another tank from a Chevy etc that may be compatable. This is a 1935 Oldsmobile F-35. Fuel filler neck is on passenger side. 1935 Chevy is on drivers side. 1937 Chevy is on passenger side but is about 4 gallons smaller. Wondering if a '37 Chevy tank might work and cut the neck off and attach my old tank's neck. Any thoughts?

mpolds

If you didn't get one already, I may be able to supply you with a
++ NEW ++ (New Fresh Stock -- not something sitting around for 60
years) Master Cylinder......

Call me -- Craig -- 516 - 485 - 1935 .... New York....

oldcutlass

Craig, already fixed.

kds 69 442

Thanks for checking Craig. Like Eric said, that problem is resolved now we've moved on to the next challenges