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Old September 4th, 2014, 03:47 PM
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Rattle Can Advice Needed

I'm going to eventually repaint my 1982 Cutlass Calais, as it is a dated shade of blue, and I can only afford a rattle can paint job. Does anyone have advice for making it look halfway decent? Following the lines of the 82 Cutlass Coupe, I'm thinking white on the roof, hood, and trunklid, as well as the lower doors/rocker panels, with gold wrapping the sides and grille/bumper with a 1/8" silver stripe dividing the gold and white. Basically the opposite scheme of the 1979 H/O. Any advice is greatly appreciated
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The reason you haven't had any replies yet is that our jaws are still dropping at the thought......
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What's that supposed to mean? It's a crappy car, I know that much
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Old September 4th, 2014, 04:21 PM
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Well, I've actually done that when I was young and poor, as opposed to now being old and poor, lol! Is there any way you can borrow a little compressor and a cheap spray gun? I'm thinking spray cans are gonna take a lot, and you can get some generic automotive paint for about $75-$100.

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Old September 4th, 2014, 04:27 PM
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You can not paint automotive paint over spray can paint same goes for cheep repaints, cheep paint is just that cheep.

Automotive paint should be sprayed in a paint booth wearing the appropriate safety gear.

Every time I see home spray booths in car magazines I think they are being very irresponsible automotive paint belongs in a down draft booth!
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One problem is each can of paint will be slightly different in color. Cannot a Maaco paint job still be had for 200 bucks?
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I'm about four hours from a decent paint paint/body place so a home job is the best I can do. I'm also not going to put what I paid for the car into the paint. The cheapest possible way is the way I'm going
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Old September 4th, 2014, 04:55 PM
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I think it will cost you about $1000 in spray cans.
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Old September 4th, 2014, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by starfire View Post
I think it will cost you about $1000 in spray cans.
We only payed about $130 with 20 Cans left to paint my brother's Caprice last week, and that's a considerably bigger car
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Old September 4th, 2014, 05:14 PM
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Here yo go, there is a ton of info on the web if you google
"Rustoleum Paint Job"

http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/b...get_paint_job/
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Originally Posted by RustRocket View Post
We only payed about $130 with 20 Cans left to paint my brother's Caprice last week, and that's a considerably bigger car

Did you like the results on the Caprice?

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Old September 4th, 2014, 05:43 PM
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You know you can buy rustoleum in quarts, I used it on my frame and it looks great. Its enamel paint which is really very durable. If you have access to a spray gun you could use the quarts. It comes in gloss white and i do believe they have gold. I think Lowes and maybe Walmart sell it. With a little time and patients you could have a decent looking paint job. You reduce it with acetone i believe, It really sprayed well on my frame. Ill probably use PPG on the body, but for a frame this was good enough for me. Save some bucks!
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Old September 4th, 2014, 05:51 PM
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Seen some using the rubber type spray paint and when your tired of it you peel it off, check out you tube.
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Old September 4th, 2014, 06:06 PM
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tractor supply sells quarts and gallonsof simple colors

I vote for the tried and true flat black, or maybe rachet it up a notch w semi gloss black !!!
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I forgot to mention I did use a very good PPG epoxy primer under the paint on the frame which will of course make the paint adhear much better. Maybe primer is not in your budget, just be sure the car is clean wash it really good, I use dawn dishwashing liquid, and use some prep sol if you can to wipe it down before you spray to get oils and silicones off.

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You can probably paint that car with about $150 to $200 worth of rattle cans.

The trick is to use good quality rattle-can paint, and paint it just the same way you would if you were using good paint.
  • Prime everything before painting, using a primer suited to the topcoat you'll be using.
  • Wet sand the car properly first, and do any rust or dent repairs properly.
  • Use a good quality filler and glaze.
  • Wet sand appropriately between coats and activities.
  • Take plenty of time - remember that rattle-can paint takes longer to cure than modern automotive paints. Until is is good and dry, you can't sand it, and until it is fully cured, you can't rub it. Also, fillers, etc., as well as all of the layers of paint, have to fully dry and contract or the edges of your repairs will become visible as they do.
  • Use a pistol-grip can holder for better control and less fatigue.
  • Some cans will have spray nozzles that work better than others. Keep the good ones and reuse them.
  • Shake the each can like crazy before you use it, and keep shaking it as you go.
  • You may need to avoid using the very bottom of the can, which may be less than perfectly mixed, in spite of your best efforts.
  • Be careful to keep large surfaces wet as you paint them, because rattle can nozzles have poor patterns with lots of peripheral spray dust.
  • Accept the fact that no matter what you do, each can will probably be a slightly different color - plan your coverage accordingly.
  • Also accept the fact that this paint will not be as durable as the "real thing."
  • Carry a few spare cans in the trunk, in case of "paint emergencies.
With proper spray paint now costing $800 to $1,200 a gallon, from what I've heard, not including all of the activators, reducers, etc. that you need, a couple of hundred bucks laid on on rattle cans for a beater is actually a pretty wise investment.

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Originally Posted by [LIST
[*]Carry a few spare cans in the trunk, in case of "paint emergencies.[/LIST].

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I know you reside in Maine but in Texas or Nevada you don't store pressurized cans in the trunk. I had a spray can exploded one hot summer day and made quite a mess.

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I know you reside in Maine but in Texas or Nevada you don't store pressurized cans in the trunk. I had a spray can exploded one hot summer day and made quite a mess.
Eeeewwww.

Yeah. Never heard of that happening around here. People keep all kinds of spray cans in their trunks.

But if you live in Hades, then, yes, don't leave spray cans, explosives, or ammunition in the car.

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Old September 4th, 2014, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 66400 View Post
I know you reside in Maine but in Texas or Nevada you don't store pressurized cans in the trunk. I had a spray can exploded one hot summer day and made quite a mess.

Henry
Uh oh, I do live in Nevada
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If you don't plan on re-painting paint it with spray cans or other.
The reason I caution you about cheep paint is because you will have to go to bare metal if you decide to re-paint.
I have seen cars come into the body shop with $200 dollar paint, striping to bare metal was the only option.
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... you will have to go to bare metal if you decide to re-paint.
Absolutely true. But, many of these cars already have several crappy coats, and would have to go to bare metal anyway (though they are far more likely to go to the crusher...).

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What about one shot paint ? I painted a few cars years ago I bet you can get a harbor freight paint gun and a gallon plus the reducer for less then 300?

I don't think it's the best paint in the world but mine looked good for 5 years before the paint faded on top.


Painted 12 years ago for cost me 150


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Wasn't bad for my first paint job I painted three cars totall before I decided I would leave it to the pro this time around
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I once had 65 Chevy Van and I painted it with a roller and a brush and then put a personal touch on the side with a big peace symbol. Peace and love everyone!
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I once had 65 Chevy Van and I painted it with a roller and a brush and then put a personal touch on the side with a big peace symbol. Peace and love everyone!
I did that once too on the Green '46 in my picture gallery. I think it actually turned out half decent. Compared to the inconsistencies in color and coverage you get with rattle cans there wasn't much difference using small diameter foam rollers. The paint was a semi-gloss enamel that I got from someplace like Tractor Supply. My buddy helped me out and we finished it in a few hours on a cool fall day. By the time we finished it was still daylight and we were sitting in lawn chairs appreciating the drastic change from a few hours earlier and drinking a cool beer.
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Basic prep.
wash car
wax and grease remover
scuff paint with scotch bright pads
hose off car
wax and grease remover

Car has to be DRY before you use the wax and grease remover!!!!!
Old car paint contains lead wash off water will contain lead follow lead paint handling,best practices guide lines/rules/safety/disposal!
Wax and grease remover follow manufactures safety recommendations, handling and disposal recommendations as well.

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"One problem is each can of paint will be slightly different in color."
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I think on this level of fixin' up varying shades is not really a concern.
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We painted many a car with rattle cans in HS. I see nothing wrong with it.
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We painted many a car with rattle cans in HS. I see nothing wrong with it.

For beaters and low dollar rides okay
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I've done some rattle can painting at in my home paint booth. For larger projects we use a spray gun. I put up plastic to keep the over spray in one bay. Also the pressure was turned down for less over spray. Luckily my neighbors haven't complained yet. Spray cans dont seem to cover very well. Again, clean everything very good and make sure the surface is scuffed up enough to hold onto the new paint. Temperature and humidity make a difference also.
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I certainly can't criticize anyone for a rattle can paint job. If anyone knew the number of his/hers shifters, distributors, factory air firewalls hacked, and whatnot, I'd be banned from CO. The definition of a "survivor car" to me, is one I hadn't gotten ahold of when I was young. Of course I'm paying for it now, though, lol!
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The best rattle jobs are matte or flat colors, hard to do colors and have each can blend into the one before. Do a harbor frieght purple HVLP gun and enamel tractor paint for less then 200, if you have compressor. If not, its yours, go for it. I would at least buy one of those sprayer things made to go on a can and give you a squeeze trigger. Makes it easier on your finger.
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Brush paint it with exterior latex paint. I'd have to do some searching to find it again but I once ran across an article on the web about a guy who painted his car with a brush and exterior latex paint. Basically it was paint on a coat, let it dry and sand. Then paint a coat, let it dry and sand, repeat. I know it's hard to tell from computer pictures but it didn't look half bad. I want to say he put six or seven coats on it, which means a lot of sanding, but it was pretty low cost.

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I just used a few cans of rustoleum on my rims a month ago. Sanded down the rims the best I could, completely cleaned and degreased and primer/paint. Cost about $20 bucks and in my opinion made a world of difference on the look of the car.
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