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31 = series = F-85 Deluxe
19 = will be the body style
LA = Lansing? assembly plant
Trim 924 = ?
Paint R = lower body color = sand beige
Paint T = upper body/convertible top color = sahara mist poly (sort of a pewter color)
2M = ?
02C (at the top left) is the build date of third week (C) of February (2) 1963
[QUOTE=jaunty75;1327950]Well, the paint codes certainly match up! Beautiful car. You rarely see the four-doors, especially in this condition.
Obviously the "19" on the cowl tag refers to four-door sedan body style.
From the '63 Olds brochure.
Thanks again! Yeah I found it on eBay yesterday and bought it, it is coming from Alabama, a 64,000 Actual Original Mile Survivor Car. More to come on this one once I get it delivered.
The 2M ACC code MIGHT refer to automatic transmission, but my source on that is inconclusive.
We had a discussion on the 2M over on the Jetfire forum. We have never determined what it is. Many cars have the 2M with nothing conclusive between them. I have had 2 of the 63 factory 4 speeds myself and neither of those had it but I think another member with a 4 speed car did have it.
We had a discussion on the 2M over on the Jetfire forum. We have never determined what it is. Many cars have the 2M with nothing conclusive between them. I have had 2 of the 63 factory 4 speeds myself and neither of those had it but I think another member with a 4 speed car did have it.
I'm basing the "maybe" on the ACC codes of other GM divisions for 1963. I don't have the definitive Oldsmobile codes for that year. Most of the ACC codes within a given year are common across the divisions, but not all of them. 2M signified Powerglide in 1963 for Chevy.
That is a sweet car! That is what 80% of people bought a 4 door family hauler. I Love it!
That's not true for the 1960s. Unlike today, 2dr models routinely outsold 4drs until the mid-70s. In the 1963 model year, Olds built 118,811 F85s, including Deluxe, Cutlass, and Jetfire models. Of those, 29,269 were F85 Deluxe 4drs like the OP's car. An additional 8,937 were base model F85 4drs. 70,640 were 2drs (including convertibles and Jetfires). The remainder were wagons That's 60% 2drs, 32% moredoors, and 8% wagons.
1963 model year US assembly by body style - 7,340,014 vehicles (1970 - 7.7M vehicles)
2-doors:
13.8% - sedan 10.9%
00.3% - station wagon 00.0%
20.5% - hardtop 41.6% 06.6% - convertible 01.7%
41.2% total 54.2%
4-doors:
36.1% - sedan 22.4%
10.3% - 2 seat station wagon 05.6%
02.2% - 3 seat station wagon 04.2% * includes 5/6 door Econoline-type
09.8% - hardtop 13.6%
00.5% - 5 and 6 door station wagon * 00.1% - convertible 00.0%
58.8% total 45.8%
Last edited by hurst68olds; Mar 21, 2021 at 06:27 PM.
1963 model year US assembly by body style - 7,340,014 vehicles (1970 - 7.7M vehicles)
2-doors:
13.8% - sedan 10.9%
00.3% - station wagon 00.0%
20.5% - hardtop 41.6% 06.6% - convertible 01.7%
41.2% total 54.2%
4-doors:
36.1% - sedan 22.4%
10.3% - 2 seat station wagon 05.6%
02.2% - 3 seat station wagon 04.2% * includes 5/6 door Econoline-type
09.8% - hardtop 13.6%
00.5% - 5 and 6 door station wagon * 00.1% - convertible 00.0%
58.8% total 45.8%
That's fantastic data. Where'd you get that?
These are the ones everyone wants to find.
Originally Posted by hurst68olds
2-doors:
00.3% - station wagon 00.0%
And while that number may have been 00.0 in 1970, it went up in 1971. I owned a Vega wagon.
Joe, the Ward's books shouldn't be too hard to find in decent condition. I've picked up a couple over the years. See if Paul Politis or other big lit vendor has them.
Joe, the Ward's books shouldn't be too hard to find in decent condition. I've picked up a couple over the years. See if Paul Politis or other big lit vendor has them.
Yeah, I'm going to have to look for one at Carlisle
"1963 Oldsmobile F-85 Deluxe" - Cowl Tag Decode Help Please...
Here is a Picture of it below.
'71 Pintos have a trunk, no hatchbacks & no wagons/panels)
