Never thought - I'm going LS
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3yr's now. I never been and Olds fan, but this car always caught my eye when i was growing up as a kid.So now I'm older and and can afford a few of them. But i have been working for Chrysler since 1988...Finance director...
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This thread just set me free!
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What makes you Happy
As most of you know. I am from the it makes me happy camp when it comes to MY Cutlass, I have been building 66 and 67 Cutlass since the early 90s I am on my 28th one at this moment. This one a 67 drop top. I believe in driving what I like. A cars value is in what you think it is. If you keep it in the garage and wipe it with a cloth every so often is it worth more because you don't drive it , a 50 year old vehicle is just that a vehicle, I would rather drive it than just open the garage and admire how good looking my old car looks.
I have been around people that tell me it is only original once.. while this is true.. I say to those if you want me to keep it original than buy it from me and I'll find another to mod. On this Cutlass I am swapping in a 65 Chevelle dash, one piece front window glass, and working on a removable hardtop, I will cast out the front turn signals from the headlight surrounds add a 53 corvette grill and fab exhaust thru the rear bumper lower lights along with propane injection for the flame throwers. Adding smooth door handles and a 4in cowl to the hood. I just want what I want . And have never kept a finished car over a couple of months after finishing. Never had someone tell me after they handed over a pile of cash, wish this was original. To each his own . Sometimes your vision is just that a vision and a journey. Enjoy and drive
I have been around people that tell me it is only original once.. while this is true.. I say to those if you want me to keep it original than buy it from me and I'll find another to mod. On this Cutlass I am swapping in a 65 Chevelle dash, one piece front window glass, and working on a removable hardtop, I will cast out the front turn signals from the headlight surrounds add a 53 corvette grill and fab exhaust thru the rear bumper lower lights along with propane injection for the flame throwers. Adding smooth door handles and a 4in cowl to the hood. I just want what I want . And have never kept a finished car over a couple of months after finishing. Never had someone tell me after they handed over a pile of cash, wish this was original. To each his own . Sometimes your vision is just that a vision and a journey. Enjoy and drive
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As most of you know. I am from the it makes me happy camp when it comes to MY Cutlass, I have been building 66 and 67 Cutlass since the early 90s I am on my 28th one at this moment. This one a 67 drop top. I believe in driving what I like. A cars value is in what you think it is. If you keep it in the garage and wipe it with a cloth every so often is it worth more because you don't drive it , a 50 year old vehicle is just that a vehicle, I would rather drive it than just open the garage and admire how good looking my old car looks.
I have been around people that tell me it is only original once.. while this is true.. I say to those if you want me to keep it original than buy it from me and I'll find another to mod. One this Cutlass I am swaping in a 65 Chevelle dash, one piece front window glass, and working on a removable hardtop, I will cast out the front turn signals from the headlight surrounds and fab exhaust thru the rear bumper lower lights along with propane injection for the flame throwers. Adding smooth door handles and a 4in cowl to the hood. I just want what I want . And have never kept a finished car over a couple of months after finishing. Never had someone tell me after they handed over a pile of cash, wish this was original. To each his own . Sometimes your vision is just that a vision and a journey. Enjoy and drive
I have been around people that tell me it is only original once.. while this is true.. I say to those if you want me to keep it original than buy it from me and I'll find another to mod. One this Cutlass I am swaping in a 65 Chevelle dash, one piece front window glass, and working on a removable hardtop, I will cast out the front turn signals from the headlight surrounds and fab exhaust thru the rear bumper lower lights along with propane injection for the flame throwers. Adding smooth door handles and a 4in cowl to the hood. I just want what I want . And have never kept a finished car over a couple of months after finishing. Never had someone tell me after they handed over a pile of cash, wish this was original. To each his own . Sometimes your vision is just that a vision and a journey. Enjoy and drive
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Big name customizers do the same thing everyday and it is considered a art.. so why the hate in making something unique
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I think market may be increased or reduced depending on modifications, but there is still a market! As Olds guys we like olds and olds powered. There are plenty of car guys who just like well built cars. Point is other car guys who dont particularly value Olds will add value for non olds powered olds and other modifications depending on implementation.
goldies vision is no different, the interested market may change but there will still be a market.
i recently bought a 40 year old motorcycle. The bike was in good shape and mostly complete. It was also inexspensive (relatively speaking) and there were several similar vintage, price and condition bikes to choose from in local ads. I restomodded it to look like a modern bike thats based on a vintage bike (ala todays challengers, mustangs and camaros). I rode it for 2 seasons and sold it for 2.5x more than i had into it. First guy that saw it bought it! Along the way i got some positive feedback on it. Point is it wasnt original i built it my way, but it didnt detract value, just changed the target audience.
im all for making a car your own, theres plenty of stuff i see people do that i wouldnt do….but at the same time i learn different ways to get things done, and i see things completed and im like oh thats a good idea ill try something similar to that too.
goldies vision is no different, the interested market may change but there will still be a market.
i recently bought a 40 year old motorcycle. The bike was in good shape and mostly complete. It was also inexspensive (relatively speaking) and there were several similar vintage, price and condition bikes to choose from in local ads. I restomodded it to look like a modern bike thats based on a vintage bike (ala todays challengers, mustangs and camaros). I rode it for 2 seasons and sold it for 2.5x more than i had into it. First guy that saw it bought it! Along the way i got some positive feedback on it. Point is it wasnt original i built it my way, but it didnt detract value, just changed the target audience.
im all for making a car your own, theres plenty of stuff i see people do that i wouldnt do….but at the same time i learn different ways to get things done, and i see things completed and im like oh thats a good idea ill try something similar to that too.
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Goldiewilson4mayor. First off great great sceen name. I get it.
People's cars they can do what they want. No offense to Cobra. To strip a factory W-30 ragtop of it's original motor is hardcore. There will not be many true Oldsmobile fans digging this swap. It's your car. You can do whatever with it. I get that. A factory W-30 ragtop getting stripped? Selling it off? That blows my mind. But to each his own. I get the reliability etc etc etc. Personally I would have sold that car and taken the money and built a new car/clone.
People's cars they can do what they want. No offense to Cobra. To strip a factory W-30 ragtop of it's original motor is hardcore. There will not be many true Oldsmobile fans digging this swap. It's your car. You can do whatever with it. I get that. A factory W-30 ragtop getting stripped? Selling it off? That blows my mind. But to each his own. I get the reliability etc etc etc. Personally I would have sold that car and taken the money and built a new car/clone.
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Today, the aftermarket modified cars are bringing huge numbers, many times more $$$ than an OEM numbers matching car. Younger people who made a lot of money due to the tech wave and these younger millionaires want cars that area fast, safe, reliable and fun to drive. This is where the modified market comes in with older vehicles being made into Resto Mods and Pro Touring cars.
There will always be a market for numbers matching OEM restorations but the RestoMod cars are driving values higher than the OEM restorations. That is the way it is. Telephone booths, Blockbuster Video, etc, are things that bring on nostalgic feelings but they are never coming back. It's gone and gone forever.
There will always be a market for numbers matching OEM restorations but the RestoMod cars are driving values higher than the OEM restorations. That is the way it is. Telephone booths, Blockbuster Video, etc, are things that bring on nostalgic feelings but they are never coming back. It's gone and gone forever.
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I started building customs cars when I was 16 my vision with each one. At 18 I started building commission based vehicle, I built stuff that I didn't agree with in the slightest. I once built a Ford powered Camaro for a customer. Built I learned that in the custom business there are 2 builders ones that have vision and ones that build someone else vision. I needed to figure out how to build my visions to stay in business and true to myself. My wife and I built custom motorcycles for a number of years as 110 hours a bike is more profitable than 2 or 3 years per 100000 cars. But in the end I misses the car business and jumped back in. I will admit, I am fromnthe Midwest and very passionate about California customs. So everything I build has lots of custom touches. I look to the classic car culture and I am afraid that the younger generation will not have a interest as most of us did a driving passion to build something for themselves. I have 3 sons not one of then is the least bit interest in cars. My wife is the only one that understands. Each new vehicle purchase starts with a vision and what I think it will cost to make x profit. Car building for is not only a passion but a business. Things need to make sense. But we all can agree We need to enjoy our classics while we are the care takers. As a model T driver. They are just caretakers of the car for the next owner.
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Don't get me wrong. I love love love customs. Always have. I get taking a whatever car and building it your way.
70 W-30 ragtop is a rare rare beast. Especially with the original drivetrain. For damn near all of us die hard Oldsmobile fans that is a tough swallow to strip and sell the original motor (did someone here buy that?)and toss in an LS motor. Posting this on an Oldsmobile specific website you won't get much love. No disrespect Cobra. Your car your cash your decision.
One more comment. That car with the original drivetrain would pull way more cash than an LS swapped car. My opinion.
70 W-30 ragtop is a rare rare beast. Especially with the original drivetrain. For damn near all of us die hard Oldsmobile fans that is a tough swallow to strip and sell the original motor (did someone here buy that?)and toss in an LS motor. Posting this on an Oldsmobile specific website you won't get much love. No disrespect Cobra. Your car your cash your decision.
One more comment. That car with the original drivetrain would pull way more cash than an LS swapped car. My opinion.
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There is a difference in worth less and worthless. I never said the car is going to be worthless. Of course there would be a buyer for this car and at big $$$. So it is not worthless.
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Im not sure..I'll have to take a closer look on the next visit...They are closed until next Monday for Christmas time off...
