1972 Cuddy

So today I've started working on my 1972 Oldsmobile Cutlass I ran into a few problems installing the motor and transmission I'm looking for a little help and advice because it's been driving me nuts I've taken this motor out several times initially when I installed the motor and transmission they were offset the tail and of my transmission was pointed at a angleI shall post pictures and images of the motor in the car shortly and the position of my mounts which are 1969 Chevelle motor mount frame mounts

Fun71

Advice: toss in a period here and there so you don't have one long run-on sentence that is hard to read.

If both of your frame mounts were the correct mounts and in the correct location the engine/trans should have been correctly aligned. Perhaps the frame is bent?

oldcutlass

X2, the kits now a days are plentiful for LS swap mounts in Chevelles. Something is not mounted correctly.

1972 Cuddy

I've uploaded some images. My photos might give you a better description of what I'm going through. Therefore my cry out for help I notice that in some of the other pictures they have moved mounts back Frame mounts that is

svnt442

Where are the pictures?

64Rocket

chebby sites should be of more use to you!

Gene

csouth

Are you installing with the motor and trans attached to each other? My advice would be to fit, fit, then fit again. Personally I like the idea of mocking up motor only with frame mounts attached and then marking the position on the cross member. After that's done, then attach them to the cross member.

csouth

There are more than enough LS Swaps here to find good information.

1972 Cuddy

Tier rods I know I can remove bleeder screw and grind to get clearance



Wanted to know if anyone had an idea of the measurements that I need to remove mounts back too



Showing which plates lm using along with energy suspension motor mounts







Images I was showing to let everyone know that the frame isn't bent

oldcutlass

I see extra holes in the motor mount engine plates, are you using the right ones?

1972 Cuddy

I'm not sure but when I change holes the engine is still not lining up straight

oldcutlass

Hard to tell not being there seeing what your seeing.

csouth

Honestly all these cars can be off little. The precision manufacturing we have today far surpasses any frame assembled in the 70's. I said all that to say it would be hard to take measurments from someone elses build without using the exact same parts. Also just because none of us can see with the naked eye, it doesn't me the frame couldn't be tweaked. I'm not saying that it is, but unless you get the frame specs and measure, there is no way of knowing for sure.

Now what you could do(and what I have seen others do) is uninstall the frame mounts, connect them to the motor mounts, then mock the engine and install where you see is the correct spot. Remember there can be some variance as you are installing and engine in a car that mounting position was not built for from the factory.

Trust me this is not an exact science, I've had mine in and out enough times to know...

68conv455

It looks like you are pretty far into it but I'll mention anyway that the Holley swap kit fits excellent and the LS3/4L65E install on my 68 went easy. This kit was just released this year.
You need the holley 302-2 pan, the holley frame brackets, and 4th gen camaro/firebird LS motor mounts.
Also, a small change at the mount will make a much larger change at the tail of the trans. Perhaps you can loosen the frame mounts slightly, then drop in the motor, swivel the engine slightly into location, and re-tighten.

1972 Cuddy

I ended up using UMI FRAME MOUNT AND MOTOR MOUNT KIT 149.99 worked great

RetroRanger

What was different about the umi kit that allowed you to get the engine in straight?

1972 Cuddy

And allowed me to move the engine left to right forward backward

1972 Cuddy

I'll post pics sometime today

RetroRanger

Cool look fwd to pics, so I can undestand originally you had an adapter at the frame and engine, w stock frame and engine motor mounts on the adapters?

1972 Cuddy

You can also go on YouTube and look up UMI swap mounts

Freddy B

Glad you got it figured out. Did you switch your transmission mount also are used the factory crossmember?