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Old May 30, 2023 | 09:40 PM
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Red face US lawsuit against Canadian

Anyone have any insite on how to handle a Defamation lawsuit from a parts supplier against a customer who asked about reliability of a business supplying restoration car parts on social media? I heard that is common practice for this business slander customers, then claim defimation. Any help would be greatly appricaited.


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Old May 31, 2023 | 04:42 AM
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Definitely contact a lawyer. It's difficult to provide good feedback if we don't know anymore about the pending lawsuit.
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Weird this is your first post. But, whatever. Had you been posting here before, you know you could always mention the name of the business as long as it's factual and accurate, as well as learning enough about it to avoid the issue in the first place. And if I knew for sure which company you were talking about sucking donkey *****, I'd blurt it out anyway, as I'm not concerned with speaking the truth. I have a good idea I know, but no facts, so I won't.
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I can think of several candidates. I wouldn't think any of them would want to deal with cross-border red tape, though.
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Thank you. You are right, but posting name may be used against me in court. I do have plenty of proof and copies of lies he posted.

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Old May 31, 2023 | 05:53 AM
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I am told he has sued customer before for same issue, for posting anything about his company. I don't know if it was succesful or true. Thank you for your comment. The Police in BC, and his home town have been notified as well as the US governemt on his actions. So I will wait for papers, but my coiuncil has asked me to see if I can find other people he has done wrong by. Which would be helpful in my defence of the truth. Bullying does not work on me, companies who try to discredit their customers. I received my $ back through dispute but they gave me too much and now wait and see if we can work this out prior to litigation, like it should have been rom day 1. I assuming he wants to get free moneys he is not intitled too. So be it. I'll wait for the papers and he can try with no garrentees he will win. Hope he has deep pockets, it not cheap, as well it could backfire.

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Old May 31, 2023 | 05:59 AM
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Simple 4 month resto has now turned into a two year battle which sucks.

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Old May 31, 2023 | 06:14 AM
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yes, this is my first post. Because other people posted here about them and looks like he has not sued them, and history goes back to at least 2006 and shows a trend. People here are seem to be honest and just want to enjoy there cars without the bulls...t of bad service. I expect people will slash me for standing up. As we all know money is not the issue, its time that I will never get back and its growing shorter ever day. People need to take resposibilty for there actions, not blame other people, so I will deal with them. If get a free room and board and a new roomate, so be it. They could have avoided all this if they would have just picked up there phone or cummunicated instead of dropping my order with no intentions of making good on the service I paid for. Money they won't get by sueing a broke person.

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Old May 31, 2023 | 06:45 AM
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First, talk to a real lawyer. The interwebs should not be your first choice for legal advice.
Second, the cross-border thing obviously complicates the issue. All the more reason to talk to a professional.
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You are right. Thank you.
Old May 31, 2023 | 08:36 AM
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Suck it up, buttercup. If they went through that much trouble, you must be a real piece of work!
Old May 31, 2023 | 09:07 AM
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Thank you for your honesty. Nothing is worse then the last three years have life has bestowed on me. My only regret, will be the waste of time this will be. So they better hurry with papers the clock is ticking. My time is more valuable at this point. So yes, I am a piece of work. They can come get more of my money they don’t deserve.

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Old May 31, 2023 | 09:36 AM
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Michigan company??
Old May 31, 2023 | 09:47 AM
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No. Very popular company and has done great work for decades even help allot of enthusiasts. Wish him no harm, just complete what you are paid to do. If not, communicate issues honestly that’s all people need. **** happens.

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Old May 31, 2023 | 10:10 AM
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Without the name of this company, it's just one sided hearsay. For all we know, you may be the problem.
Old May 31, 2023 | 10:31 AM
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Only a story at moment if I don’t name them. Being as there are only 4-5 top companies specializing in parts related to this site. You can do research. I failed to do.
Old May 31, 2023 | 12:15 PM
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What a thread....
Old May 31, 2023 | 02:38 PM
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I get scam emails all the time that use the same grammar as what I've read so far.
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What a thread....
Amen. I say the same thing...
What a weird (lame) thread.

Maybe we need a thread about whole milk versus skim...

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Old May 31, 2023 | 02:45 PM
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How about some pics of your 65 Cutlassss?
Old May 31, 2023 | 02:51 PM
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My guess is an engine builder out of California but I believe he has passed away? Either way, You are not likely to get anywhere here with this post. If it is that engine builder, there are many posts about them. Just show those to your lawyer and see if that is enough. I would bet internet chatter will not be accepted much.
Old May 31, 2023 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jensenracing77
My guess is an engine builder out of California but I believe he has passed away? Either way, You are not likely to get anywhere here with this post. If it is that engine builder, there are many posts about them. Just show those to your lawyer and see if that is enough. I would bet internet chatter will not be accepted much.
If was Lynn, then the lawsuit is dead
Old Jun 2, 2023 | 07:20 PM
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Joe’s on target, you need professional advice. Not unqualified keyboard warriors. Especially across borders where any judgement in either direction may be unenforceable.

I don’t want to know enough to compromise you, but I can’t quite tell if you’re a burned/spurned Canadian (sorry on behalf of us Americans), or if you’re a U.S. citizen who got burned trusting a company in Canada. Just so you know how the thread reads.

None of us likes BS artists (speaking as a CA resident lightly burned by a recently departed CA engine builder). We’re all sympathetic, but go pro with legal stuff or settle for what may be a sub-optimal results.

Warmest wishes for a good outcome.
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Old Jun 3, 2023 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by cfair
Joe’s on target, you need professional advice. Not unqualified keyboard warriors. Especially across borders where any judgement in either direction may be unenforceable.

I don’t want to know enough to compromise you, but I can’t quite tell if you’re a burned/spurned Canadian (sorry on behalf of us Americans), or if you’re a U.S. citizen who got burned trusting a company in Canada. Just so you know how the thread reads.

None of us likes BS artists (speaking as a CA resident lightly burned by a recently departed CA engine builder). We’re all sympathetic, but go pro with legal stuff or settle for what may be a sub-optimal results.

Warmest wishes for a good outcome.
Chris

Appreciate your comments. Yes. You both are very correct that professional legal advise is required. Once I receive paperwork from supplier with his false claims against me I will get professional advise. This post wasn’t created just so I can whine. I have family and friends on both sides of border and is between myself and one business, nothing more. I’m not spurned or looking for revenge. When you enter contract both parties are responsible to complete contract. I fulfilled my end and take full responsibility for my actions as so should the business. To intimidate, defame and harass a customer instead of working out issues is wrong. I do not wish any harm on business at all and stated that many times. To this day they will not be better person and do what’s right. There ego has got the better of them and I will not back down. Until I see papers sent to September court of Canada I will not worry about this. This is a great community of people across both borders. Truth will come out. No it’s not a business in California. Best wishes to all.
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... You need professional help.
There, FTFY.
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Originally Posted by 1965Cutlassss
Anyone have any insite on how to handle a Defamation lawsuit from a parts supplier against a customer who asked about reliability of a business supplying restoration car parts on social media?
Originally Posted by 69HO43
Weird this is your first post. But, whatever. Had you been posting here before, you know you could always mention the name of the business as long as it's factual and accurate, as well as learning enough about it to avoid the issue in the first place. And if I knew for sure which company you were talking about sucking donkey *****, I'd blurt it out anyway, as I'm not concerned with speaking the truth. I have a good idea I know, but no facts, so I won't.
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Thank you. You are right, but posting name may be used against me in court. I do have plenty of proof and copies of lies he posted.
jensenracing77:
"My guess is an engine builder out of California"

Originally Posted by 1965Cutlassss
No. Very popular company and has done great work for decades even help allot of enthusiasts. Wish him no harm, just complete what you are paid to do. If not, communicate issues honestly that’s all people need. **** happens.
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No it’s not a business in California.
Originally Posted by oldcutlass
Without the name of this company, it's just one sided hearsay. For all we know, you may be the problem.
Originally Posted by 1965Cutlassss
Only a story at moment if I don’t name them. Being as there are only 4-5 top companies specializing in parts related to this site. You can do research. I failed to do.
Originally Posted by jensenracing77
My guess is an engine builder out of California but I believe he has passed away? Either way, You are not likely to get anywhere here with this post. If it is that engine builder, there are many posts about them. Just show those to your lawyer and see if that is enough. I would bet internet chatter will not be accepted much.
Originally Posted by jensenracing77
This post wasn’t created just so I can whine.
Yes, it was.

Originally Posted by 1965Cutlassss
...my coiuncil has asked me to see if I can find other people he has done wrong by...
You have some really smart council. See if you can find other people he has done wrong by....no one in particular, just some made-up lunatic. Brilliant council you have...absolutely brilliant.

I just blew chunks from my nostrils. The intelligence of the human mind is beyond belief.
Old Jun 3, 2023 | 10:59 AM
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Thanks you chief. Noted. Cheers.
Old Jun 3, 2023 | 11:08 AM
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Thanks you chief. Noted. Cheers.
No worries.

I recall a story from when I was younger.....the essence of that story involved a wolf in sheep clothing.
Old Jun 3, 2023 | 11:16 AM
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“My favourite things in life don't cost any money. It's really clear that the most precious resource we all have is time.”

S.Jobs
Old Jun 3, 2023 | 11:47 AM
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“My favourite things in life don't cost any money."

S.Jobs
Well, that isn't really true. See, Steve-O loved good weed and he paid for some really good weed. Weed and Lysergic Acid Diethylamide were two of Steve-O's favorites.

Steve said a good many things...especially after wandering 'round a wee bit in India for ~7 months acquiring scabies, dysentery & lice. He did fall in love w/ Thai Stick. He paid for that Thai Stick.

Originally Posted by 1965Cutlassss

"...the most precious resource we all have is time."

S.Jobs
Perfect segue to my departure from this thread.
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Interesting logic. Not sure what his personal life is really anyone’s concern. Not sure if you would say that if you lost 3 loved ones in 3 years. Do you think they thought to themselves I wish I made that extra Dollar as they struggled for there last breath. Time is all we have and it’s way too short.

you take care.

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Originally Posted by 1965Cutlassss
Interesting logic. Not sure how what he did in his personal life is really anyone’s concern.
If he went around espousing quotable quotes to live on for other people to quote them, I think his personal life's choices that's already in the public domain is certainly fair game for consideration to show credibility. It's amazing just how stupid some of his choices were, in certain ways, outside his lane of genius. Besides, he's not here any more. He could have been saved pretty easily with a simple surgery...but NOOOooo. Another stupid choice and off he went. Sometimes even a genius can be a dumbass.
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I thought this got deleted; maybe I couldn't see it logged out. Either way..... what a shjtshow!

There are only a handful of guys that I trust to build Olds engines in North America. There are far more crooks looking to cash in on a niche market.

Even if you got burned, I can't see someone going as far as to create a website (or more) designated to bashing a customer. That is just fantastical.
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Not sure about any websites. Was dragged out on social media at customers expense. When business was proved wrong post began to be deleted. Still some post I’m olds forms by reputable site administrators. Please do not bash or mention any engine builders as this is not what it’s about. It’s about customer service for services paid and not fulfilled.

thank you for your comments.
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What was that lawsuit again? "Definition of character"?
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I got a pm from the OP about who he is talking about, I never answered him because I don't want to be involved in it, anything I have said about this company was posted here and in the open. So in saying that please dont DM, say it in the open, if your truthful what is there to worry about.
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Not sure why a business would contact you. Rest assured it’s nothing to do with OP. Appreciate everyone’s comments and private messages. Great group of people here.

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Maybe I missed something 1965Cutlassss, but why not show some pictures of the car from start to where you are now? It would be great to see the project. Heck some folks, like myself, even document something as mundane changing a fuel pump with a neighbor on his truck, lifting the bed and all, just for the 'remember when...' moments!
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Originally Posted by 1965Cutlassss
Anyone have any insite on how to handle a Defamation lawsuit from a parts supplier against a customer who asked about reliability of a business supplying restoration car parts on social media? I heard that is common practice for this business slander customers, then claim defimation. Any help would be greatly appricaited.
I know this is Olds Parts. He's been going through some crap but I find it hard to believe it's gotten this far
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Vistabrat.

Several months away from finishing.

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