Three speed manual
September 25th, 2012, 09:10 AM
#41
Ben
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Not really on topic, but I've got the original Dearborne HD 3 spd in my 66.
Would like to replace it with a 4spd sooner or later- but the 455 build keeps taking all my extra car money at present, so it'll probably go back in when the new motor is ready ;-)
Would like to replace it with a 4spd sooner or later- but the 455 build keeps taking all my extra car money at present, so it'll probably go back in when the new motor is ready ;-)
September 25th, 2012, 09:54 AM
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The Olds stick shift trannys from 51-64 were made by Buick.
This was the famous "Roadmaster" transmission that Buick used in it's heavier models from 1936-60. (Century,Roadmaster, and Limited)
Buick built a special version of this trans for Olds. It had a tailshaft for an open driveline. (Buicks had a torque tube)
This was the famous "Roadmaster" transmission that Buick used in it's heavier models from 1936-60. (Century,Roadmaster, and Limited)
Buick built a special version of this trans for Olds. It had a tailshaft for an open driveline. (Buicks had a torque tube)
September 25th, 2012, 02:18 PM
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Insurance was the reason. I had a friend back in '68 who bought a new Firebird 400. I worked at the local dealership as a mechanic's helper. I remember all of us gathering around to gawk at the "Ford" tranny in this new Firebird!
I asked him later, why the 3 speed? He explained that the insurance was too high if he got a 4 speed. (he was only 21)
He told me that the insurance would be almost as much as the car payment if he got a 4 speed.
I asked him later, why the 3 speed? He explained that the insurance was too high if he got a 4 speed. (he was only 21)
He told me that the insurance would be almost as much as the car payment if he got a 4 speed.
I remember that. There was a way to get around it. The insurance rule only applied to cars, but not trucks. So if you bought a truck you didn't get hammered with the 4 speed charge. That was the reason why some folks bought an El Camino. No kidding.
September 25th, 2012, 03:03 PM
#44
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I'm going to be completely candid and say I could be off base. I just remember looking up info for the 318 for my C-10 and seeing a chart that said they were offered in Olds. Never seen one with my own eyes in an Olds.
September 25th, 2012, 07:31 PM
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June 5th, 2014, 12:01 PM
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If you'll read the posts you'll see this was already well answered. The '65-'69 transmission, gears and all, were all Ford, not GM with one exception. Only the input shaft was GM.
June 5th, 2014, 12:06 PM
#48
3 sp Trans
The use of the 3sp Trans started in '65 Cutlass and 442. Was a ford unit because it was the only Trans that was full syc . I guessing '68 was the last year for that. That Trans was listed as a heavy duty only because of the full syc shift
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April 6th, 2017, 08:46 AM
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Dearborn 3speed numbers
I have seen several case numbers out here on the Dearborn 3 speed, but have been unable to find any article information anywhere online on decoding case numbers, dates or differences in Buick, Olds, or Pontiac units. I have a unit with a tag that reads RAT E1, 028366, the extension housing has RF-C5FR-7A040-A, the main case has C8AR, 7006, and 7K30, the front bearing retainer has 03001 and H25B. Any help on figuring out what this came out of or where I can find info would be greatly appreciated.
April 6th, 2017, 09:30 AM
#50
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Uh not true. In 1931 Olds 3spd. transmission was built by Muncie and my fathers '36 was a 3 spd. Muncie.
April 6th, 2017, 09:57 AM
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- Eric
April 6th, 2017, 10:30 AM
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When I was 5yrs. old my father came home with a 1938 Plymouth 4 dr. sedan, and my blood turned to oil and it was all down hill since. I just loved the automobile all my life. All American makes. I'm a vast cesspool of useless knowledge
April 6th, 2017, 10:56 AM
#54
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When I was the same age my father brought home a 1938 K Lincoln that had been sitting in a field.
Ended up selling it a couple of years later (got it running and stopping, but with all the wood and leather, it's not a car a "regular guy" can restore), but it stuck with me.
Also, by the time I was 5, I was helping him swap motors in VWs and Porsches (I could get my hands where he couldn't).
And, yeah, I seem to kinda know a few useless things myself...
- Eric
Ended up selling it a couple of years later (got it running and stopping, but with all the wood and leather, it's not a car a "regular guy" can restore), but it stuck with me.
Also, by the time I was 5, I was helping him swap motors in VWs and Porsches (I could get my hands where he couldn't).
And, yeah, I seem to kinda know a few useless things myself...
- Eric
June 28th, 2017, 04:44 AM
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