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Old Dec 31, 2012 | 05:01 PM
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I'm going to post this video before I head out to celebrate new years, but I want to warn everyone There Is Vulgar Language. Happy New Years Everyone!
http://s1202.beta.photobucket.com/us...e92b2.mp4.html
Old Dec 31, 2012 | 05:30 PM
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Congrats on the purchase man!!! Had to be a good feeling getting the car home today!

Happy New Year!
Old Dec 31, 2012 | 06:20 PM
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I don't know if this will help, but if you can figure out if the car originally is from Wilmington, Delaware, I may be able to tell you some of its history, including the possibility I may have the name of the original owner.
Old Dec 31, 2012 | 06:27 PM
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Interesting

ST 70 - 1970 model year
3 - Oldsmobile division
44 - series (442)
67 - body style - convertible
E - Linden New Jersey production
331 - Fisher body number (not related to VIN)
TR 977 - Ivory themed interior (bucket seats)
PNT 28 C - lower body color Twilight Blue with Blue convertible top
10 D - Build month/week (built in the 4th week -D of October - 10, 1969)

So it would appear that your car has transformed it's exterior color from what it was born with.

Probably something like this (only with ivory interior and standard hood).

It would have also come with body and trunk stripes (the thin ones like ^^ above)

Better image showing the stripes. Notice how crisp they are in comparison to the ones on your car. Also this car has the rear opening chrome yours is missing. That's why I was thinking there's a lot of filler on the rear wheel openings and lower quarter.
Old Dec 31, 2012 | 06:33 PM
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He mentioned the color change in an early post, but I'm sure that stuff's easy to miss.

The car I knew was bought new by a woman with 4-speed, no console, standard hood, and wheelcovers. After the bumper rusting as bad as I've ever seen on a non-beater, it was bought by a guy named Mitch Hoopes out of Arden who at one point owned a '71 Cutlass Supreme with a 455, although it didn't have SX badges at the time. It had the W-25 and was painted the same green as your car is now. I moved when I was 16, so I don't know what happened to the ragtop but I think I may have seen it once with the W-25. Otherwise, I haven't a clue.

Would be funny if it was the same car because it's the same color.
Old Dec 31, 2012 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Diego
He mentioned the color change in an early post, but I'm sure that stuff's easy to miss.
D'oh! Right in the first post, last sentence. Sorry bout dat! But at least the cowl tag shows the original color matches what was told to him.

I'm still really curious about those rear quarters and wheel openings as far as filler goes. IF it's the same car as you remember the quarters may have rotted out too. I'd be more afraid of rot on the frame though. I guess we'll find out when the teardown happens.
Old Dec 31, 2012 | 06:49 PM
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I actually read the first post and was surprised to see he detailed a lot of options except color, so I read it against and saw it. :-)
Old Dec 31, 2012 | 11:25 PM
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Be sure to check it out completely.
It does not have disc brakes,
Does not have a 442 rear bumper,
When they were trying to adjust the engine, it sounds like it has some exhaust leaks.
Other than that it looks pretty good. It is a very good base, has plenty of work ahead for you.

Gene
Old Jan 1, 2013 | 02:04 PM
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I like it... Its a drop top and a 4speed. I'll bet your going to find a lot of issues but if you got it for 10 grand.I'd say good deal. Be prepared though. The purchase price may be less than it cost for each step in your restoration. But as it is it's a good 50 footer. You could make it safe and enjoy it as is for a few years..
Old Jan 1, 2013 | 03:43 PM
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I'd get it in good running condition and drive the hell out of it this summer.... after having a season of fun then, and only then, would I start restoring it.

Just remember old cars are like women...they don't have to be perfect to be fun...
Old Jan 1, 2013 | 03:46 PM
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Nice car.Where in Southington are you?One of my sons and one of my daughters live in Southington,on W.Center St.I live in Berlin,not far form you.
Old Jan 1, 2013 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by krooser
Just remember old cars are like women...they don't have to be perfect to be fun...
Old Jan 1, 2013 | 05:45 PM
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10K being too much for a 1. 442. 2. 1970. 3. 4 speed. 4. covertable!?

I've sold a roadrunner clone for way more then 10K, advertised as a clone, and it was a hardtop auto!

I guess I'm just confused. I suppose it's not a W-30 car, but still.

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Old Jan 2, 2013 | 04:57 PM
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The owner still has the title, once the check clears he's sending it to me. When I went up to inspect the car I checked out all the documentation and title. He purchased the car from a lady in CT, I forget the town. She was the first owner. She had a bunch of stuff done and got screwed from what I see now. I'm going to register and drive easy for a bit before deconstruction just to enjoy it before the 2yr hibernation.
Old Jan 3, 2013 | 11:03 AM
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Congratulations!!!

That is some good advice there, drive and enjoy your droptop while picking away at little small projects from time to time.

This will help you get familiar with your 442 and restoration sources available.

Gotta love the '70!!!
Old Jan 4, 2013 | 12:50 PM
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ctsplicer, I'm up on the hill on Mill St. I have the car at a private garage in Plainville, shoot me a pm if you'd like to come check it out sometime.
Old Jan 4, 2013 | 01:08 PM
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cool pics Allan R, they shouldve kept it twilight blue with the blue top. Here's a couple of shots from inside.
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Old Jan 4, 2013 | 01:09 PM
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Old Jan 4, 2013 | 01:13 PM
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Old Jan 4, 2013 | 01:19 PM
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I'm trying to figure out the 2 ***** in this pic. There below and to the right of the glove box, there on the driver's side also. Anyone know what these ***** do?
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Old Jan 6, 2013 | 03:06 PM
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Harlequin,I would like to check it out some time.When I have a spare moment I'll let you know.
Old Jan 6, 2013 | 05:48 PM
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[QUOTE=harlequin;493231]I'm trying to figure out the 2 ***** in this pic. There below and to the right of the glove box, there on the driver's side also. Anyone know what these ***** do?
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Controls for upper and lower air vents......

Ted
Old Jan 7, 2013 | 12:55 PM
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Thanks for the heads up Ted!
Old Jan 7, 2013 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by harlequin
I'm trying to figure out the 2 ***** in this pic. There below and to the right of the glove box, there on the driver's side also. Anyone know what these ***** do?
Originally Posted by sammy
Controls for upper and lower air vents......Ted
More specifically they pull out to move a flapper door behind the panel that allows outside air to flow through the vents. Push them in and the door closes, stopping air flow. They are NOT part of the blower fan ventilation; they work effectively only as long as the car is moving. The faster the car is going, more air flow. Open a window slightly and the air flow improves dramatically. They are NOT thermostatically regulated- they allow whatever the ambient temperature outside is to flow through the vents. See pages 26/27 of your owners manual.

They can also be removed and restored to a bright chrome finish. Shane (oldzzy) just did his a while back and they look impressive. clik here and scroll down
Old Jan 11, 2013 | 12:54 PM
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Very good description Allan. So, ive decide not to register and drive it for a bit. Ill be starting a deconstruction thread very soon in the other forum, with tons of pics.
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