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Old June 3rd, 2021, 08:58 AM
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Hello from Germany

Hello to all the Oldsmobile fans. I'm Markus from Germany and since gas prices go up I thought it is a good idea to by my first American car wich is now on the way to me from Toronto Canada. Found this nice 1967 Delta 88 one family car, 89000 miles with the 425 Super Rocket. I think it's a 2 barrel version. I get the invoice back from 1967 and it says nothing about the engine so I asume it's the standard one. Beside that it's pretty loaded with everything electrical including seats and antenna, Power steering, Power brakes and AC. Some rust on the lower door jambs and on the rocker panels but shes 54 yers now and I think looks still pretty solid. Hope the ship arrives soon and the German technica inspection let pass the car quickly so I can get her out on the road.

Can anyone tell me whats the name of the outside color?

Here are some pictures form today when she arrives at the harbour storage.













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Old June 3rd, 2021, 09:28 AM
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Old June 3rd, 2021, 09:47 AM
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S-6 shows the car to be Champaign (S) lower body and Champaign (6) vinyl top. Post a better photo of the cowl tag without that hose in the way. Nice find.
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Interesting that 362 is the green cloth interior, which was not a recommended selection with Champaign paint.



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That looks like a real Autobahn cruiser! Congrats
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Your engine is a 425 high Compression 2bbl. Yes a Canadian car as they use that long snout on the air cleaner. You had better get a gas pump installed at your house! LOL Nice car.
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Old June 3rd, 2021, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by KAIDOautosport
since gas prices go up I thought it is a good idea to by my first American car
I don't see the connection.

How does the price of gas going up cause you to want to own a car that, at least by today's standards, gets poor gas mileage? Oldsmobiles of this vintage were not gas-sippers. I owned a '67 Delta 88 myself from 2009 to January of last year, and it never got more than about 8 or 9 miles per gallon.

Most people would say that the price of gas going up is the time to get rid of their American car, not buy one!
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Originally Posted by jaunty75
I don't see the connection.

How does the price of gas going up cause you to want to own a car that, at least by today's standards, gets poor gas mileage? Oldsmobiles of this vintage were not gas-sippers. I owned a '67 Delta 88 myself from 2009 to January of last year, and it never got more than about 8 or 9 miles per gallon.

Most people would say that the price of gas going up is the time to get rid of their American car, not buy one!
Apparently the [SARCASM] [/SARCASM] HTML codes aren't working you your browser...

Maybe this will help:

https://www.engadget.com/darpa-helpe...l?guccounter=1
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Welcome to the group and congrats on your 67 Delta acquisition...
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Old June 3rd, 2021, 11:48 PM
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Thanks for the welcome. And of course it was sarcasm the climbing gas prices are a pain in the butt for all car fans. But I think they will never really drop so maybe it was my last chance to ever afford driving a car like that thats why I decide to get one now instead of next year or the year after.
I will post pictures when the car arrives at my door I hope it's still solid and driveable without much hassle. Regarding the color combo, maybe Canada had different options in 1967 or could you order color combos wich are not in the catalouge for extra money?
@Charlie Jones I will post some pictures there when the car is in Germany and I allready saw the struggle with finding parts for a B body car.

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Congrats on your purchase.
Hope you get to enjoy driving it before the days when we'll need to take a personal bank loan to take it out for a Sunday drive.
How I miss the days when I could pull up to the pump and tell the attendant to give me bucks worth of gas instead of gallons.
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Old June 4th, 2021, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Supernice88
Congrats on your purchase.
Hope you get to enjoy driving it before the days when we'll need to take a personal bank loan to take it out for a Sunday drive.
How I miss the days when I could pull up to the pump and tell the attendant to give me bucks worth of gas instead of gallons.
And, they'd automatically clean your windshield and check your oil while they pumped your gas. I worked at a Shell gas (filling) station in high school in the 60s - standard everyday procedure.
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Since I was born in East Germany in 1979 I was never used to get real cheap gas so it's not so hard for me But for me it's always a joy to pull into a gas station in the US even today.
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Good luck on the inspection, as you know they do a thorough job, at least they did when I was stationed there in early 80's. I was failed for rust near headlight but didn't effect the light. Nice ride. What is the cost for a litre of gas these days?
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Based upon several Internet sources one liter of fuel in Germany = 1.29 Euros. 1.29 Euros = $1.57 USD. Therefore, 3.78 liters/US gallon = $6/US gallon
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This is a screenshot from a first-season episode of Mannix, specifically from early 1968. That's Mannix's modified blue '67 Toronado in the center, but note the yellow car on the left.


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Servus Markus aus Österreich!

sehr nettes Schiff!

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Originally Posted by Vintage Chief
Based upon several Internet sources one liter of fuel in Germany = 1.29 Euros. 1.29 Euros = $1.57 USD. Therefore, 3.78 liters/US gallon = $6/US gallon
1.29 Euro is Diesel at the moment 95 Octan gas is around 1.50 Euro a liter = 1.82 USD a liter x 3.78 liters/US gallon = 6,88 USD a gallon. Filling up the Delta 88 would cost around 170 USD.

@bobs72 They are pretty strict, rust on structure parts like the frame is a big issue and brakes needs to work, all the joints needs to be in good shape as well. The good thing is that if a car is that old the rules to meet german standards is a little bit mor lean back. The car can have read indicator in the back, the emission standards from 1967 applies as well as noise levels and in 1967 there are nearly non existing. This makes it a little bit easier to get the car road legal.

@exotec Hallo nach Österreich. I allready check some of the threads here to get some infos.
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Old June 7th, 2021, 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by KAIDOautosport
1.29 Euro is Diesel at the moment 95 Octan gas is around 1.50 Euro a liter = 1.82 USD a liter x 3.78 liters/US gallon = 6,88 USD a gallon. Filling up the Delta 88 would cost around 170 USD.
Thanks for that clarification. You're right I was viewing diesel when I looked up my numbers. Currently (May 21), our premium is averaging ~$3.45 USD/gallon across all states. So, Germany is paying about twice for fuel what the USA pays for fuel. If I recall correctly, historically that's about on par when comparing German fuel prices to American fuel prices.
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Old June 7th, 2021, 07:18 AM
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I think the prices in the US differ from state to state like they do in Germany. Prices change about 10 cent accorss Germany. When we've been to the US in 2017 and travel from Las Vegas to Houston I saw a noticable difference between states.
Anyway as I said rising gas prices are a pain in the **** around the globe for all car fans.

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