64 f-85 deluxe 2dr sedan sports coupe
#1
64 f-85 deluxe 2dr sedan sports coupe
I recently picked up a 1964 f-85 330 high compression four barrel, four speed, dual exhaust, posi car, with console, tach, and vaccum trunk release. I am trying to find out if anyone has any production figures or how rare of a car this is.
#3
This was the original definition of a 442, wasn't it? The 442 first appeared in '64, and I believe it was an option package on any '64 F-85 or F-85 Cutlass. Do you in fact have a 442?
Last edited by jaunty75; August 12th, 2012 at 08:30 PM.
#4
according to the research that I have found the 442 came out in late 64. This car has a build date of third week of october 63. also according to records there were no two door f85 deluxe sport coupes made with the B09 option, and the rear control arms are not boxed nor is there a rear sway bar. It seams this car is a 442 before they offered the 442.
Last edited by 64f85cutlass; August 12th, 2012 at 09:50 PM. Reason: had to add a date
#5
Yes, the 442 was a mid-year addition to the option line-up for 1964, and it certainly seems that, with an October '63 build date, this car was made before that option became available.
I guess those three options were available all along, and Olds just put them together in a package and called it "442" to get something to compete against the GTO?
If so, I wonder how many closet '64 442's were made and are out there now.
This is kind of a reverse of the 442 clone situation. Instead of taking a car that was originally NOT a 442 and turning it into one, you have car that is underneath a 442 but was built before the designation was official. Now you just need some proper badging to get the car the proper recognition!
I guess those three options were available all along, and Olds just put them together in a package and called it "442" to get something to compete against the GTO?
If so, I wonder how many closet '64 442's were made and are out there now.
This is kind of a reverse of the 442 clone situation. Instead of taking a car that was originally NOT a 442 and turning it into one, you have car that is underneath a 442 but was built before the designation was official. Now you just need some proper badging to get the car the proper recognition!
#6
The 4spd would make it rare but not super rare as I have seen and heard of others now and then. Matter of fact my brother has a 64 Cutlass conv that came with a 3spd stick and console. The car is not a 442 because it does not have the rear sway bar or boxed control arms and B09 components. It does not have the badging or dual snout air breather. As said production date says it all. Although the 64 442 stood for 4bbl 4spd and dual exhaust in reality you do not have a 442 which has to be a B09 car.
#7
I am just wondering how rare this car is because they only made 6,594 two door f-85 deluxe sports coupes. How many of those were 330 four barrell, four speed, dual exhaust, console, tach, posi, 14x6 steel wheels, with the trunk release? I also am need of help decoding the cowl tag.
10c
64-3127 body LA 1647
trim 940 paint C-C
acc S-2L-G-3D
10c
64-3127 body LA 1647
trim 940 paint C-C
acc S-2L-G-3D
Last edited by 64f85cutlass; August 13th, 2012 at 09:48 AM.
#9
Was waiting for engineering to come up with a name when GTO came out, and since the GTO could have a 400 CI motor, Olds developed their own version for '65.
Chevy already had the SS, but now they could do the Z-16 396 375HP, since "corporate rules" O.K.'d 400 inches in the A body, thanks to Pontiac!
Buick did the same with their GS.
Chevy already had the SS, but now they could do the Z-16 396 375HP, since "corporate rules" O.K.'d 400 inches in the A body, thanks to Pontiac!
Buick did the same with their GS.
Last edited by Rickman48; August 13th, 2012 at 12:54 PM.
#10
I also am need of help decoding the cowl tag.
10c
64-3127 body LA 1647
trim 940 paint C-C
acc S-2L-G-3D
10c
64-3127 body LA 1647
trim 940 paint C-C
acc S-2L-G-3D
The LA most likely means Lansing assembly plant, the 1647 is just the body sequence number at the Lansing plant, and "10C" means built third week of October, which would be October 1963.
#12
What a great car, please do not badge it. Do you have any pictures? We just finished a 2 1/2 year restoration on a 64 442, so I may be able to help you if you are restoring. I'd love to see this car.
#13
We only plan to badge it as the cutlass that it is, but the deck lid has two holes in it where something was at one time. Any help on the restoration would be great. We have started to locate missing parts for the car, but wheel well and rocker moldings seem to be non existant. I need to get some pictures taken but my wife had the camera in the diaper bag with our daughters sippy cup so all we have now is a wet paper wet.
#14
We only plan to badge it as the cutlass that it is, but the deck lid has two holes in it where something was at one time. Any help on the restoration would be great. We have started to locate missing parts for the car, but wheel well and rocker moldings seem to be non existant. I need to get some pictures taken but my wife had the camera in the diaper bag with our daughters sippy cup so all we have now is a wet paper wet.
#15
I am just wondering how rare this car is because they only made 6,594 two door f-85 deluxe sports coupes. How many of those were 330 four barrell, four speed, dual exhaust, console, tach, posi, 14x6 steel wheels, with the trunk release? I also am need of help decoding the cowl tag.
10c
64-3127 body LA 1647
trim 940 paint C-C
acc S-2L-G-3D
10c
64-3127 body LA 1647
trim 940 paint C-C
acc S-2L-G-3D
64 = 1964
3127 = F-85 Deluxe Sports Coupe
LA = Lansing, Michigan Assembly Plant
1647 = Fisher Body unit #
940 = Black themed interior
C - C = Provincial White Upper and Lower Body Color
I don't have info on the accessories
#16
The holes in the decklid are on the passenger side. I also found out that even though the fisher body number says this car is an F-85 deluxe the vin 824Mxxxxxx shows this to be a V8 cutlass and it as badged as a cutlass on the fenders and dash.
#19
My Photobucket Link
Currently adding some photos of my restoration, but here's the current ones on photobucket of our restoration.
Randy
http://s1155.photobucket.com/albums/...iii/?start=all
Randy
http://s1155.photobucket.com/albums/...iii/?start=all
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