I recently picked up a 1964 f-85 330 high compression four barrel, four speed, dual exhaust, posi car, with console, tach, and vaccum trunk release. I am trying to find out if anyone has any production figures or how rare of a car this is.

 

Welcome ! Great find would love to see pics .
I don't know the answer to your question but I am sure some guys here can and will chime in . I love the body on 64/65 f85/cutlass Oldsmobile

 

This was the original definition of a 442, wasn't it? The 442 first appeared in '64, and I believe it was an option package on any '64 F-85 or F-85 Cutlass. Do you in fact have a 442?

 

according to the research that I have found the 442 came out in late 64. This car has a build date of third week of october 63. also according to records there were no two door f85 deluxe sport coupes made with the B09 option, and the rear control arms are not boxed nor is there a rear sway bar. It seams this car is a 442 before they offered the 442.

 

Yes, the 442 was a mid-year addition to the option line-up for 1964, and it certainly seems that, with an October '63 build date, this car was made before that option became available.

I guess those three options were available all along, and Olds just put them together in a package and called it "442" to get something to compete against the GTO?

If so, I wonder how many closet '64 442's were made and are out there now.

This is kind of a reverse of the 442 clone situation. Instead of taking a car that was originally NOT a 442 and turning it into one, you have car that is underneath a 442 but was built before the designation was official. Now you just need some proper badging to get the car the proper recognition!

 

The 4spd would make it rare but not super rare as I have seen and heard of others now and then. Matter of fact my brother has a 64 Cutlass conv that came with a 3spd stick and console. The car is not a 442 because it does not have the rear sway bar or boxed control arms and B09 components. It does not have the badging or dual snout air breather. As said production date says it all. Although the 64 442 stood for 4bbl 4spd and dual exhaust in reality you do not have a 442 which has to be a B09 car.

 

I am just wondering how rare this car is because they only made 6,594 two door f-85 deluxe sports coupes. How many of those were 330 four barrell, four speed, dual exhaust, console, tach, posi, 14x6 steel wheels, with the trunk release? I also am need of help decoding the cowl tag.

10c
64-3127 body LA 1647

trim 940 paint C-C

acc S-2L-G-3D

 

Welcome - sounds like a very interesting car!

 

Was waiting for engineering to come up with a name when GTO came out, and since the GTO could have a 400 CI motor, Olds developed their own version for '65.
Chevy already had the SS, but now they could do the Z-16 396 375HP, since "corporate rules" O.K.'d 400 inches in the A body, thanks to Pontiac!
Buick did the same with their GS.

 

This level of detail in production records is not available. Olds did not even keep records that would tell you the original selling dealer or anything like that. It's a problem that has long plagued the Oldsmobile hobby.

Lots of people on here can help with this (although I'm not one of them).

The LA most likely means Lansing assembly plant, the 1647 is just the body sequence number at the Lansing plant, and "10C" means built third week of October, which would be October 1963.

 

The car still had the owners manual in the glove box when we got the car and someone had written down "OR dealer Dunham Motors Eugene Oregon"

 

What a great car, please do not badge it. Do you have any pictures? We just finished a 2 1/2 year restoration on a 64 442, so I may be able to help you if you are restoring. I'd love to see this car.

 

We only plan to badge it as the cutlass that it is, but the deck lid has two holes in it where something was at one time. Any help on the restoration would be great. We have started to locate missing parts for the car, but wheel well and rocker moldings seem to be non existant. I need to get some pictures taken but my wife had the camera in the diaper bag with our daughters sippy cup so all we have now is a wet paper wet.

 

If the holes in the decklid are on the driver's side, those are likely from a dealership badge that was installed at one time. In the 60 and 70s, dealerships would pop-rivet die cast badges to the decklid.

 

10C = 3rd Week (C) of October 1963 build date
64 = 1964
3127 = F-85 Deluxe Sports Coupe
LA = Lansing, Michigan Assembly Plant
1647 = Fisher Body unit #
940 = Black themed interior
C - C = Provincial White Upper and Lower Body Color
I don't have info on the accessories

 

The holes in the decklid are on the passenger side. I also found out that even though the fisher body number says this car is an F-85 deluxe the vin 824Mxxxxxx shows this to be a V8 cutlass and it as badged as a cutlass on the fenders and dash.

 

I found out that the acc codes are
S- vacume trunk release
2L- four speed
G- console
3D- ???? I still don't know maybe door edge gaurds but the car doesn't have any on it now.

 

Your trunklid holes didn't look like this did they? These are from my 442.

 

Currently adding some photos of my restoration, but here's the current ones on photobucket of our restoration.

Randy

http://s1155.photobucket.com/albums/...iii/?start=all

 

the top holes look like that, but there arn't any holes in the underside stucture.

 

Thats a great looking car, you guys did a great job