Sick's 69 H/O
October 24th, 2010, 06:31 PM
#1
Sick's 69 H/O
WHELP...
most people on here know me and have helped me with one stupid thing or another on here lol. not sure if this is also a major build seeming it runs fine (to a certain extent).
For those of you who dont know me....
Names Tom (HI TOM!) and i have always loved olds for one reason or another. my love for the 442 came along with the movie Demoltion Man lol. Now i am 26 and for about the last 2 years i was searching for a 1968-1972 442 or 442 clone that i could call my own, scam after scam of the too good to be true olds i ran across a 1969 Hurst/olds. So after working out a deal with the owner and bank i was able to drive this bad johnny home. she runs but could use some work, especially with body and looks in general. BUT like any other old car once you run into one problem you find a million more lol.
Enough ranting and i will have pics up soon of my process but just reserving a spot on the threads for now.
most people on here know me and have helped me with one stupid thing or another on here lol. not sure if this is also a major build seeming it runs fine (to a certain extent).
For those of you who dont know me....
Names Tom (HI TOM!) and i have always loved olds for one reason or another. my love for the 442 came along with the movie Demoltion Man lol. Now i am 26 and for about the last 2 years i was searching for a 1968-1972 442 or 442 clone that i could call my own, scam after scam of the too good to be true olds i ran across a 1969 Hurst/olds. So after working out a deal with the owner and bank i was able to drive this bad johnny home. she runs but could use some work, especially with body and looks in general. BUT like any other old car once you run into one problem you find a million more lol.
Enough ranting and i will have pics up soon of my process but just reserving a spot on the threads for now.
October 24th, 2010, 06:36 PM
#2
So Far on what i have done
Just a recap on what i have done to the car since i got it has been:
New power steering line (Old one blew out while i was driving)
New Tires (tread actually blew out on my way there and i had to drive about 10 miles at like 25 MPH on the highway at that).
New Water pump, Thermostat (to fix the overheating problem)
Got the Radiator rebuilt due to it being 50%clogged and causing the over heating)
took out the aftermarket radio in hopes of getting an original one for at least the looks.
New power steering line (Old one blew out while i was driving)
New Tires (tread actually blew out on my way there and i had to drive about 10 miles at like 25 MPH on the highway at that).
New Water pump, Thermostat (to fix the overheating problem)
Got the Radiator rebuilt due to it being 50%clogged and causing the over heating)
took out the aftermarket radio in hopes of getting an original one for at least the looks.
October 24th, 2010, 06:42 PM
#3
Today i decided to get enough time/energy to take the mat off of the trunk and see how bad it is below it and after about an hour of taking off the foam insulation and loose rust it doesnt look all that bad. looks like i will just have to sand her down and paint it. anyone know what these screw holes are for btw?
October 24th, 2010, 07:09 PM
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Great Buy!!! 69 H/O!! Man!!
I have the same holes in my 67 442 and they are for a hook and rod to hold the spare down and the jack.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1964-...Q5fAccessories
Ken
I have the same holes in my 67 442 and they are for a hook and rod to hold the spare down and the jack.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1964-...Q5fAccessories
Ken
October 24th, 2010, 07:26 PM
#5
and looking at the wiring and from leaving my key in the ignition position and smelling of wires when i came back i have confirmed i am not going to be driving it and going to rewire the ENTIRE car with new wires. this shall be interesting lol
November 12th, 2010, 02:27 PM
#7
Well the past couple of days i decided to do my bushings in the rear. F that if i ever have to do them again. Right now the rear axle is removed from the car (not even sure if i did it right but it is outta there). Got the rubber out but cant get the metal sleeves out cause they rusted to the axle, smh. well pics up when i get a chance.
November 14th, 2010, 06:30 AM
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https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...tml#post225178
If originality is not important, you may buy a complete set of boxed arms for little dough. I got mine from Muscle Factory chevelle.
Cheaper and easier than refinishing, changing bushings, etc...
November 14th, 2010, 10:54 AM
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Well the factory sway bar only has 4 bolts - remove them and it is off.
The control arms are not too hard to do - just do one at a time.
Here is my experience at rear suspension work:
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...ancements.html
The control arms are not too hard to do - just do one at a time.
Here is my experience at rear suspension work:
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...ancements.html
November 14th, 2010, 11:12 AM
#12
it wasnt as bad as i thought removing the lower arm. just the top bolt gave me some hell on getting it out lol. now it is just getting the rubber out of them and then the sleeves. the bushings were so bad on the upper i could just pull them out with a pair of pliers with a screw driver in the center for an anchor lol.
November 14th, 2010, 06:04 PM
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The screw holes (hard to see in your photo) look like someone was wise and put them there for extra drainage. If I am not mistaken it looks like they put two in each of the body plugs(?).
January 16th, 2011, 07:26 PM
#14
Sorry it has been a while since i posted but i just removed the fenders so i thought it would be an awesome time to upload some pics and some statuses (statusi? statsee?)
The rear end finally went back together like 2 weeks after i have got the bushings out
Here is a pic on how the old ones looked
The rear end finally went back together like 2 weeks after i have got the bushings out
Here is a pic on how the old ones looked
January 29th, 2011, 09:47 PM
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http://img543.imageshack.us/slidesho...9205029574.jpg
since i cant upload pics here is my image shack webplayer
since i cant upload pics here is my image shack webplayer
January 30th, 2011, 05:40 AM
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Not sure if there was an issue with the removal, but next time unbolt the torque convertor from the flex plate and keep it with the tranny and you will save yourself some speedy dry.
Send us pics of the inside after teardown.
Send us pics of the inside after teardown.
January 30th, 2011, 06:06 AM
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Locked up motor ...you can't rotate to get to converter bolts.
January 30th, 2011, 11:12 AM
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So i took her intake manifold and heads off today and i think i might see what is wrong but need to pull the rest of her apart to find out IMHO.
Here you go guys as promised pics of the engine as i tear her down, and due to i think my phone takes too big of pics i will be posting them via image shack, so here is the link
ENGINE TEAR DOWN PT. 1!
Here you go guys as promised pics of the engine as i tear her down, and due to i think my phone takes too big of pics i will be posting them via image shack, so here is the link
ENGINE TEAR DOWN PT. 1!
January 30th, 2011, 12:18 PM
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January 30th, 2011, 01:04 PM
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January 31st, 2011, 06:40 PM
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OK I got it all apart!!!
And i think i figured it out but kinda doesnt make sense but whatevs lol. Definately needed a rebuild though IMHO.
Final Tear Down
tell me what you guys think. this is the cylinders and the piston that i think caused it
And i think i figured it out but kinda doesnt make sense but whatevs lol. Definately needed a rebuild though IMHO.
Final Tear Down
tell me what you guys think. this is the cylinders and the piston that i think caused it
January 31st, 2011, 07:23 PM
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OK I got it all apart!!!
And i think i figured it out but kinda doesnt make sense but whatevs lol. Definately needed a rebuild though IMHO.
Final Tear Down
tell me what you guys think. this is the cylinders and the piston that i think caused it
And i think i figured it out but kinda doesnt make sense but whatevs lol. Definately needed a rebuild though IMHO.
Final Tear Down
tell me what you guys think. this is the cylinders and the piston that i think caused it
January 31st, 2011, 07:53 PM
#34
same cylinder taken twice... felt it and it doesnt seemed raised but it definitely has some texture. Took more pictures of the pistons and the bearings (bearings looked fine to me though). and i apologize with my horrible picture taking skills lol, but i am doing all these pics with my phone lol
January 31st, 2011, 08:06 PM
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same cylinder taken twice... felt it and it doesnt seemed raised but it definitely has some texture. Took more pictures of the pistons and the bearings (bearings looked fine to me though). and i apologize with my horrible picture taking skills lol, but i am doing all these pics with my phone lol
edit: I blew it up and looked at it again. I think you have a busted cly there.
January 31st, 2011, 08:26 PM
#36
Some more pics. will try to get some more detailed pics on the cyl wall in question really quick
Bunch of pics
Bunch of pics
January 31st, 2011, 08:35 PM
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Last edited by sicky olds; January 31st, 2011 at 08:39 PM. Reason: pictures WAY too big lol
January 31st, 2011, 09:00 PM
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not too sure
the motor wouldnt turn til we loosened some pistons... so maybe that is it? only thing i can think of is.... actually i cant think of anything besides that Number 7 cylinder wall doesnt look right,
the motor wouldnt turn til we loosened some pistons... so maybe that is it? only thing i can think of is.... actually i cant think of anything besides that Number 7 cylinder wall doesnt look right,
February 1st, 2011, 05:50 PM
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Wow were the main bearings just as bad as those rods? I'm supprised that thing was still running that long. Since you are enjoying the photo taking you should show the skirts of the pistons not the sides. Also some better up close pics of the bearing shell faces where the crank rides not the side of the bearings that does not tell us anything.
One thing I can say is the rod bearings were running without oil and would have spun with in seconds more of running. I still can't tell whats going on with the weird looking cly. Anyone else seen that before? This could be a good learning experience for everyone here.
One thing I can say is the rod bearings were running without oil and would have spun with in seconds more of running. I still can't tell whats going on with the weird looking cly. Anyone else seen that before? This could be a good learning experience for everyone here.
