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Old Jun 3, 2023 | 06:30 AM
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Floor liner or sound deadner?

So I was watching a video of a cleanup of a '69 W32 and noticed that when they were working on the interior, there was some sort of "liner?" under the rear seat on the floor. It made me realize that my '72 Supreme doesn't have one, and was wondering if there was one available aftermarket? I've included a link to what Fusick sells as well as a couple pics of what I'm talking about.

https://www.fusickautomotiveproducts...p?number=SDM80




Old Jun 3, 2023 | 07:38 AM
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The kit Fusick sells is OE style insulation. You can also get aftermarket sound deadener if you aren't doing a concours restoration.

https://www.summitracing.com/search/brand/dynamat
Old Jun 3, 2023 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Olds64
The kit Fusick sells is OE style insulation. You can also get aftermarket sound deadener if you aren't doing a concours restoration.

https://www.summitracing.com/search/brand/dynamat
I'd rather go with Fusick, but the diagram isn't real clear. Does it include everything I'll need?
Old Jun 3, 2023 | 08:32 AM
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Do they really look under the carpet when they are judging a concours restoration? Maybe they x-ray it. Nothing would surprise me.
Old Jun 3, 2023 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by redoldsman
Do they really look under the carpet when they are judging a concours restoration? Maybe they x-ray it. Nothing would surprise me.
I'm not concerned about that...I just want to replace what's missing.
Old Jun 3, 2023 | 08:43 AM
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I didn't intend for my comments to be smart azz. I would personally go with one of the products like Dynomat. I think they would probably do a better job of noise and heat reduction.
Old Jun 3, 2023 | 08:58 AM
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Personally I'd ditch that factory-style sound deadener and use Dynamat, Hushmat, or a similar product.
Old Jun 3, 2023 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Personally I'd ditch that factory-style sound deadener and use Dynamat, Hushmat, or a similar product.
Does Dynamat make a pre cut set?
Old Jun 3, 2023 | 09:17 AM
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I am pretty sure they don't. It looks like pretty easy stuff to work with. I am sure somebody that has used it will speak up.
Old Jun 3, 2023 | 09:26 AM
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As noted, the Dynamat-style deadener sheets are pretty easy to cut, but there are precut Chevelle kits that are probably 90% of the way to fitting a Cutlass.Keep in mind that this stuff doesn't need to be EXACTLY the right shape. The attenuation primarily comes from mass-loading of the sheet metal. An inch or so difference here and there won't make a noticeable difference.

https://www.musclecarcentral.com/196...p/int-5967.htm
Old Jun 3, 2023 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
As noted, the Dynamat-style deadener sheets are pretty easy to cut, but there are precut Chevelle kits that are probably 90% of the way to fitting a Cutlass.Keep in mind that this stuff doesn't need to be EXACTLY the right shape. The attenuation primarily comes from mass-loading of the sheet metal. An inch or so difference here and there won't make a noticeable difference.

https://www.musclecarcentral.com/196...p/int-5967.htm
364.00...yikes! I'll let someone else get that.
Old Jun 3, 2023 | 11:57 AM
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One upvote for Dynamat. It ain’t cheap, or lightweight but it makes a different. In both of my big cars I did the complete floors from trunk to the firewall. It’s a lot of material and no one makes any kind of kit for big cars. I wasn’t being careful about attenuation, I was aiming at overkill.

A few years after I did the floors, I pulled the headliner in my ‘66 Starfire and did the roof. Very good fix. I still should do the C pillars one day, but I’m in no rush until I my windows just so. Many people believe Dynamat won’t stick to the roof underside, but after a thorough cleaning of the old GM cardboard cottage cheese and degreasing, I’ve not had even a hint of a problem. Very messy to do the roof though as the old stuff gets in your eyes, clothes, everywhere.

To be more sensible than me, I’d recommend starting with their A-body kit and see if you want to go beyond that. Whatever brand you settle on, you’re looking for aluminum backed sticky butyl rubber for the mass loading as mentioned above.

If you want, Dynamat makes a related foam product (can’t recall the name) which substitutes and improves over the old GM carpet underpayment.

Here’s what I use underneath my door panels for water repelling and noise reduction:
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...etness-164031/

Last thing to mention is that once you get rid of / dampen the big noises, all the little noises come out. Rattles, whistles and whatnot.

If you have the interest, it’s kind of fun to see how quiet you can make these old cars.

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Old Jun 3, 2023 | 03:44 PM
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I’d find something with led in it so it can’t be X-rayed
Old Jun 4, 2023 | 08:38 AM
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Second or Third or XXX for Dynamat

I put
Xtreme Dynamat Xtreme Dynamat
down in the entire floor board, top of kick panel to rear of rear under-seat, of my '68 4-4-2. after rust removal, sealing and painting. BTW my '68 did not have any factory sound deadener under the rear seat, nor behind the seat-back. Dynamat works well. I bought boxes of rectangular sheets. Went down fairly easily. Beware, though, wear good leather gloves when cutting, fitting, placing, and finally sticking the stuff down. The foil backing shredded my fingers and hands




Like others have said, it is heavy. I've 2/3 of a box left over (6 of 9 sheets of 18"x36"), about 24 SqFt, but shipping may be $$$. PM me if interested.

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Old Jun 11, 2023 | 11:14 AM
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Old Jun 11, 2023 | 06:55 PM
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I forgot to mention dynaliner is a good 2nd layer complement to dynamat / dynamat extreme. It replaces and improves over the old batting GM used to use beneath carpets. It’s more or less dense closed cell foam rubber. Doesn’t absorb water either, although that may create its own problems.

I had the my Starfire interior out last week & rediscovered I’d used dynaliner as an experiment. If my car is any guide, it helps deaden noise beneath carpets & the rear seat. I consider the experiment a success.

If you’re aiming at as-close-to-modern-car-quiet as you can get with these 60’s cars, it’ll help.

Chris
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