sicky olds

yeah ten minutes of fun turned into about a year project lol. But honestly its a blessing in disguise for me cause then i feel motivated to get her done and back up and running but at the same time i wont be just driving her for the heck of it when i know i need to do more stuff to her lol.

svnt442

I would double check the connections at the horn relay on the fender to make sure all is well there. Next I would look at the starter and the battery cables.
If you can't turn it with the socket then try pulling the spark plugs and try again. If it still wont move then I'd say you have a bigger issue on your hands.

sicky olds

Pulled all spark plus and it wouldn't budge

Jamesbo

Ruff Oh.

sicky olds

This just means i have a project of rebuilding the engine and seeing how much power i can make outta it with keeping it's stock-esque about it

coltsneckbob

I am trying to understand something. If the engine is indeed frozen for some reason why didn't it just freeze up the second the problem occurred. If I understand Sicky it became unstartable only after he turned it off and tried to restart. Is that correct?

If that is correct sounds more like a starter or electric problem. However the ominous sign is thit at he can't hand turn the engine. Now that could just be because he is a weakling.... I can turn my engine by grabbing 2 sets of belts and using the leverage they afford....it ain't real easy, but very doable.

Nilsson

I am still not convienced it is locked up,but hey if that is what is takes to motivate you go for it.

firefrost gold

I had one time a starter stick and burn a bearing up and lock the the engine up
we started to pull it to rebuild and found the stater with the bad bearing before
I got to far. not saying it is. what did the plugs look like? Can you see
smoke at the start of your loop-ti loop from the trumpet ? hard to see on you tube and sounds funny like a tractor tire or large off road tire as he pulls up to drive at the end of his masculine man power display .

sicky olds

well the spark plug looked fine but you can smell gas on them. not too sure about other smells though. i will pull the starter and see what that looks like to make sure, but i just replaced both the horn relay and starter not too long ago

firefrost gold

so had i and must have been off enough to have it stay engaged and locked the bearing up and froze it you will to drop it if you pull it at some point worth a try

gearheads78

Its well worth a try to pull the starter just to be sure.

sicky olds

And would that explain the whirring when trying to start it.

sicky olds

replaced the starter today... and still no luck my guess is the engine seized BUMMER

68442CONVERTCO

Is it an auto or a manual trans?
I did the same thing as a teenager (dang line-loc burnouts). My '74 Road Runner locked up after I parked it. The trans and converter had to be seperated from the motor with two huge prybars. engine was fine, converter and trans were gone.

RAMBOW

I was just going to ask the same question.
If this is a stickshift... did you have someone pressing in the clutch while trying to turn it over with the breakerbar? If not, that engine ain't going to turn.

If it was still runnning when it stopped (and not making a ton of noise (dropped valve) then something else is causing it not to turn over.

Same thing can happen as mentioned above if its an automatic car- which will cause the motor to not be able to turn. Separate the torque converter from the flex plate and then see if you can turn the engine by hand.

firefrost gold

guys its a 69 h/o its a auto

DeltaStew

That sucks big time, man. Would be cool if the timing chain jumped or something simple like that. Just look at it this way, if the motor has never been out of the car it is for the better. You can now have the heads upgraded for unleaded fuel, and as long as the crankshaft is saveable, you shouldn't have to break the bank on it. If that's the original motor you could set it aside and find you a good 68-70 455 to build for playtime. It'll be alright.

68442CONVERTCO

Trust me, you can screw up an auto trans and converter enough to where the engine won't spin.

Dad made me cut the wires to the line-loc after we put another trans in.

Can't wait till my son starts driving!

firefrost gold

I think you can wreck an avil if you try hard enough 69 h/o's only came with a auto thats all I was saying. If you listen to the vid to me it makes a funny sound at the end as he pulls up slow , and i cant tell if it is blowing smoke from tail pipe at the start of his fun run or if it is from the tires yes most is from tires but the start of the looks like it is high and far back like from the tail pipe?

sicky olds

@delta: not original motor and it was built in 01/02. BUT it was sitting under a nonbreathable waterproof car cover for 3 years during a duration the guy was in iraq for...

sicky olds

@firefrost: yeah i do notice the noise at the end of it so i think something is loose but i will let everyone know as soon as i get the engine pulled and tore down.

sicky olds

SORRY for the long wait on this but i finally just got done pulling the motor out today. She is definitely seized.... now to find out why lol. hopefully get pics up later for you guys

sicky olds

OH and also so far while pulling it out the oil was REALLY watery and not much came out and also my tranny fluid was like maroon colored... FUN FUN

oldsguybry

ouch , thats not good .....head gasket ? no matter , you got engine out so now you have a reason to start a engine rebuild thread

sicky olds

idk what it is, spent the whole day taking it out, both the engine and the tranny came out. and i have a thread in which i will edit in a sec (once i get the link lol)

Sick's 69 H/O restore thread

Lady72nRob71

Ouch - none of that's good.
Looking forward to the rebuild thread!