1979 Hurst Olds Engine Numbers Questions

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Old Dec 19, 2024 | 09:53 PM
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1979 Hurst Olds Engine Numbers Questions

I've started to dig in to the numbers on my recent 79 H/O acquisition, and was a bit bummed when I cleaned off the engine block number below the #1 spark plug and it didn't line up with the VIN.
My VIN is 3K47R9M552077, only the H/O in '79 had the 350 engine and "R" in the VIN, correct?
The stamped engine code looks to be 37R104042, which would indicate a 1977 engine, correct? And the last six of the VIN obviously is nowhere near what I have for a VIN.
The casting number above the water pump on the engine block is 554964 3A. My research indicates 3A casting is from a Olds '79 350. Why wouldn't the casting number and engine VIN stamp line-up?
Thanks for any help with this or redirect me to the proper forum!
Old Dec 19, 2024 | 11:08 PM
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Just came across this info from Mondello's reference book. This makes more sense that casting 554964 3A was for 1977-80 350 engines. So I've got a 77 350 engine block in my H/O I take it?




Old Dec 20, 2024 | 02:07 PM
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The VIN derivative on your engine is a 1977 motor. The "R" in the third position of the VIN derivative indicates that it came from a car built at the Arlington, TX plant, so clearly not original to your car, which was built in Lansing (as evidenced by the "M" in the 7th position of the VIN).
Old Dec 20, 2024 | 08:27 PM
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Thanks Joe, appreciate the information.
Old Dec 21, 2024 | 05:35 AM
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VIN derivatives? I thought they were "Cereal" Numbers! There was another rabbit hole about that in another thread!




Old Dec 21, 2024 | 07:40 PM
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I think you might be on to something there with the blown engine theory RR. I do have this VIN check from the National Insurance Crime Bureau, and I checked Colorado's database as well, all clean there for this VIN. Seems to be a clean title for this vehicle as well.
Old Dec 22, 2024 | 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 69HO43
VIN derivatives? I thought they were "Cereal" Numbers! There was another rabbit hole about that in another thread!

I refrained from commenting in that other thread. The stamp on the block is a DERIVATIVE of the VIN. The engine serial number is the one stamped on the oil fill tube.
Old Dec 29, 2024 | 03:33 PM
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My 1979 HO has a block number of 39M546991. Any idea if that is original?
Nevermind, answered my own question, 546991 is the last 6 of my VIN.

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Old Dec 29, 2024 | 09:30 PM
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Looks like you have an original, numbers matching engine, congrats!
Old Dec 30, 2024 | 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Hurst_Olds_W-40
My 1979 HO has a block number of 39M546991. Any idea if that is original?
Nevermind, answered my own question, 546991 is the last 6 of my VIN.
FYI, ALL of the numbers of the VIN derivative must match the VIN of the car. In your case they do.



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