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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 10:11 AM
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Does anybody know of a good manual that I can use that will give me torque specs for my '65 Olds 425?


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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 10:21 AM
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The 1965 Oldsmobile Chassis Service Manual should have them.

Register at Wild About Cars then go to the downloads section and they have the manual online in .pdf form.

http://wildaboutcarsonline.com/index.html
Old Jan 10, 2011 | 02:48 PM
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The 1965 Oldsmobile Chassis Service Manual should have them.

Register at Wild About Cars then go to the downloads section and they have the manual online in .pdf form.

http://wildaboutcarsonline.com/index.html
I have the chassis service manual, I was just wondering if there was a Haynes type manual out there for it.

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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 65Delta88
Does anybody know of a good manual that I can use that will give me torque specs for my '65 Olds 425?


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There are lots of original Olds shop manuals on EBAY, I bought both a chassis manual and a body manual foor my 65 and have less than $40 in the pair. They are very good manuals.
Old Jan 11, 2011 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 65Delta88
I have the chassis service manual, I was just wondering if there was a Haynes type manual out there for it.

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Why in the name of Ransom E Olds would you want a Haynes manual for something like that? You got the factory issued CSM, you got the authority on what it's supposed to be.

But if you insist on aftermarket, you'll need to find a 60s Chilton or Motor's manual that covers 1965 Oldsmobile.
Old Apr 6, 2012 | 09:14 PM
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Torque specs for '65 Olds 425

Originally Posted by 65Delta88
Does anybody know of a good manual that I can use that will give me torque specs for my '65 Olds 425?


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for future reference- from 64-71 chiltons

head bolts- 60-80 ft.lbs.

rod bearing bolts- 38-48 ft.lbs.

main bearing bolts- no.1 thru 4- 80-120 ft.lbs. no. 5- 120-160 ft.lbs.

crank shaft balancer bolt- 100 ft.lbs

flywheel to crankshaft bolts-85-95 ft.lbs.

intake manifold- 28 ft.lbs.

exhaust manifold- 22 ft.lbs.

Last edited by Seriousfun; Apr 6, 2012 at 09:17 PM. Reason: reference update
Old Apr 7, 2012 | 05:31 AM
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Why in the name of Ransom E Olds would you want a Haynes manual for something like that? You got the factory issued CSM, you got the authority on what it's supposed to be.
+1


Originally Posted by 65Delta88
I have the chassis service manual, I was just wondering if there was a Haynes type manual out there for it.
In my book, this qualifies as a nonsensical statement, kind of like "If I fill the bathtub with dry ice and let it melt, can I take a bath without getting wet?"

If you've already go the right manual, why on earth would you be looking for second hand information from the wrong manual?

I've got a shelf full of old Chilton's and Motor manuals (and just picked up a '67 Glenn's manual for $2 yesterday), which I keep for "emergency" use, so that in case I run across a car for sale that I never considered buying (things happen... ), I can get it going while I search for a factory manual, but I would NEVER consider using them as a primary information source because they're crap.

Please explain.

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Old Apr 7, 2012 | 08:36 AM
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Haynes/Chilton/Motors/etc are all simply dumbed-down versions of the factory Chassis Service Manual. That's the only one you need. It covers everything in the lesser books plus much, much more.
Old Apr 8, 2012 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MDchanic
+1




In my book, this qualifies as a nonsensical statement, kind of like "If I fill the bathtub with dry ice and let it melt, can I take a bath without getting wet?"

If you've already go the right manual, why on earth would you be looking for second hand information from the wrong manual?

I've got a shelf full of old Chilton's and Motor manuals (and just picked up a '67 Glenn's manual for $2 yesterday), which I keep for "emergency" use, so that in case I run across a car for sale that I never considered buying (things happen... ), I can get it going while I search for a factory manual, but I would NEVER consider using them as a primary information source because they're crap.

Please explain.

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Yeah, but they has purtier pictures!
Old Apr 9, 2012 | 10:57 AM
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 01:34 PM
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Well, as Jersey Bob told you today at 1:56, and Kurt repeated at 2:20, you could just go download them for free from WildAboutCars.

Personally, I like to have a print manual as well. I find that eBay is often your best bet, especially if you wait for the right on to come up.
I paid $8 for my '73 manual, including shipping.

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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MDchanic
Well, as Jersey Bob told you today at 1:56, and Kurt repeated at 2:20, you could just go download them for free from WildAboutCars.

Personally, I like to have a print manual as well. I find that eBay is often your best bet, especially if you wait for the right on to come up.
I paid $8 for my '73 manual, including shipping.

- Eric
you left out the best part Eric .....

If you access the WAC manuals you can print off JUST THE PAGE/S you want instead of hauling around a big bulky book. I on the other hand haul around my 72 CSM and AM in the garage because I like too, and it gives the pages that nice 'greasy oily' smell that can't be duplicated by a puter!
Old Apr 9, 2012 | 01:52 PM
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... and it gives the pages that nice 'greasy oily' smell that can't be duplicated by a puter!
I dunno - my computer is pretty greasy and oily...

- Eric
Old Apr 9, 2012 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by MDchanic
I dunno - my computer is pretty greasy and oily...

- Eric
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 06:34 PM
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If I have a factory manual, that's where I go. My 65 factory manual is similar to the Chiltons , but doesn't give a range for mains(1 to 4, 80, #5 120). The big difference I see is 50 for harmonic balancer, not 100. 50 seemed low, but I gave it a little more for good measure. Head bolts says 80.
Personally, I always trusted Motors brand over Chiltons. Followed a wire diagram from chiltons once and fried some wires, found other mistakes as well.
Haynes manuals(IMHO), SUCKS.
Got mine on disc from DAVEGRAHAMAUTOLITERATURE.COM Real handy and quick to access once it is downloaded.
Old Apr 10, 2012 | 03:31 AM
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The big difference I see is 50 for harmonic balancer, not 100. 50 seemed low, but I gave it a little more for good measure. Head bolts says 80.
There are apparently some early engines with a smaller crank bolt, they made it bigger sometime in '65 after the manuals had been printed and changed it in the '66 manual.

So, if it's the small one, it's the lower torque, all the others, it's the monster torque.

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Old Apr 10, 2012 | 04:24 AM
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Hmm, interesting. Wonder what sizes the bolts are? Mine was 1/2. I would guess the dampners are different also.
Old Feb 2, 2015 | 05:00 PM
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updating an old thread...
WAC now charges for access to these manuals... (BOOOOO)
WAC WAS a good resource, but i aint payin for the little amount i use it, so long WAC


bill
Old Feb 2, 2015 | 08:11 PM
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Old news flash.....

Bill??
WAC no longer exists. It's now the AHPS (Automotive Historical Preservation Society). If you want to read about it - here you go, [What happened to Wild About Cars?] the thread was started back a few months ago. Since then there's been no active participation I can see from any of the folks who used to flog WAC on this site.
Old Feb 2, 2015 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Allan R
Since then there's been no active participation I can see from any of the folks who used to flog WAC on this site.
You will admit, though, that the reception was fairly hostile.

- Eric
Old Feb 2, 2015 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MDchanic
You will admit, though, that the reception was fairly hostile.- Eric
Reaaalllly, guess why? After all the years we saw this flogged at us:
Wild About Cars. http://wildaboutcars.com. An information supersource, especially Oldsmobile. More Olds content than anywhere else on the internet and continuing to grow.
You'll find Chassis Service Manuals, Product Information Manuals (AKA Assembly Manuals), Inspector's Manuals, and other documents that will contain this and much much more.
Dealer Brochures, magazine ads and articles, and a home page for you online with your own garage where you can show off what you have.
Free to join, free to learn.
Duhhh, give yer head a shake Eric. Of course it's going to be frosty after Bob and Kurt used that byline and belittled a lot of us for NOT promoting their brand like they do. We've been through this wringer soooo many times, what's the point you're trying to make here?
Old Feb 3, 2015 | 03:14 AM
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... what's the point you're trying to make here?
I think you've just made it.

- Eric
Old Feb 3, 2015 | 05:58 AM
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i have been away for a long time, sorry to stir-up a hornet's nest.


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