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Old Nov 20, 2013 | 09:29 PM
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W30 clone

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Oldsmobile-4...S_Cars _Trucks Listed as a 442, which it is, but has W30 "options", never says that it is a clone. It does look nice, but honesty is not his policy I guess.
Old Nov 20, 2013 | 09:33 PM
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Wow! 100k!! This is where I want to ask them "are you effing nuts"? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Oldsmobile-4...US_Cars_Trucks
Old Nov 21, 2013 | 08:28 AM
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The W27 rear end is what intrigues me. The guy says it has the W27 rear housing cover but the picture looks like the entire unit is there. Does he have any idea what he does or doesn't have?

Also just noticed those two links you posted read the same but when you click on them they go to different cars...? At least on my computer

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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 09:03 AM
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Beautiful car but concourse quality? I think they would take off a bunch of points for the incorrect stripes. Why would they go through all that trouble and not make sure they got the stripes correct? Puzzles me. Would they take off points because it's a W-30 clone as well? Also is that the correct master cylinder for that car?
Old Nov 21, 2013 | 09:42 AM
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Numbers-matching engine? Then this must be one of those rare W30s that wasn't assembled in Lansing ....

I'm pretty sure the center section of the rear end is just cast iron, painted "aluminum." Just like the rear anti-sway bar is (incorrectly) painted silver.

The battery's mounted wrong, too.
Old Nov 21, 2013 | 09:48 AM
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Also just noticed those two links you posted read the same but when you click on them they go to different cars...?
Two posts, two cars, the second being an outrageously priced 442. The pictures are now missing from the second posting of a '72 442.

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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 10:31 AM
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What is a W-30 three spoke wheel? And the dual-gate has a walnut ****. Nice car.
Old Nov 21, 2013 | 10:52 AM
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Hmm, battery looks like it's rotated 90 degrees.
Old Nov 21, 2013 | 01:49 PM
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What is a W-30 three spoke wheel? And the dual-gate has a walnut ****. Nice car.
The dual gate lever looks straight, like on a GTO.

Now that I look at it again, it is from a GTO. It's tapered toward the top and straight. How did they get that to fit in an olds console.

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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by dfire25
Now that I look at it again, it is from a GTO. It's tapered toward the top and straight. How did they get that to fit in an olds console.
Note that there are no photos of the console...

The W-30 intake is a repro. Note the raised area around the "OLDSMOBILE W-455" lettering. The repro mold has this mark because the mold portion with the lettering is replaceable to allow both this and the "OLDS W-455" styles to be cast from the same mold. You'll see a similar ridge around the casting number on the repros.

Interesting that he apparently has an original W-30 radiator top plate - or else has done an amazing job of weathering the tune up decal.

The rear axle center section is more likely aluminum paint than real aluminum.
Old Nov 21, 2013 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 1969w3155
Wow! 100k!! This is where I want to ask them "are you effing nuts"? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Oldsmobile-4...US_Cars_Trucks
I just clicked on it and now it says $200,000. I think the guy is just having fun with ebay.
Old Nov 21, 2013 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Note that there are no photos of the console..
You can see the front part of the console in the picture, looks olds to me.
Old Nov 22, 2013 | 02:43 AM
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The owner wrote he was going to revise the lsiting, since it's not a documented w30. I would wager the ad won't change and someone will get rooked.
Old Nov 22, 2013 | 04:25 AM
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It has snap on center cap wheels as well!
Old Nov 22, 2013 | 06:46 AM
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The owner wrote he was going to revise the lsiting, since it's not a documented w30. I would wager the ad won't change and someone will get rooked.
Sorry, but anyone who spends that much money on a car without verifying authenticity deserves to be separated from their money.
Old Nov 22, 2013 | 06:57 AM
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I would probably agree, but there are clear examples of fraud and negligent misrepresentation. That's when a sale becomes a con.
Old Nov 22, 2013 | 07:34 AM
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Well technically he's not advertising it as a W-30, just that it has W-30 options. It is a decent attempt at a clone, but i guess he should state that in the discription. It is a true 442 though according to the vin. I'm guessing its getting nowhere near the money he thinks he can get for it.
Old Nov 22, 2013 | 08:16 AM
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Also, the heat riser pipe is missing which means it probably is missing the heat shroud, as well.
Old Nov 22, 2013 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 1969w3155
Two posts, two cars, the second being an outrageously priced 442. The pictures are now missing from the second posting of a '72 442.
Now that's buying sight unseen.
Old Nov 22, 2013 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by dfire25
The dual gate lever looks straight, like on a GTO.

Now that I look at it again, it is from a GTO. It's tapered toward the top and straight. How did they get that to fit in an olds console.
Good eye. I missed that.
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