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W27 axle carrier too!
I’d like to see a broadcast card/ documentation - but if anyone has an extra 145K they want to gift me for Christmas....
I’ll take it!

 

Very nice car that I would love to park in my garage but maybe not the most perfect 442.
I'm pretty sure the radiator flaps should be retained with green square push pins not the black round pins lol

 

I like the Sherwood Green exterior, my 70S is that colour orginally and will go back to that. The Green interior, no thanks. Either Black, White or the Pearl like my interior is so much nicer.

 

It is a nice, very green car. I believe that if I were in the $145,000 market that I'd be looking at '53 Fiestas or maybe something of a different marque. Very strong money for an Olds that does not have a convertible top. All the power to them though.

 

WOW ! Spectacular vehicle, price seems sky high to me yet NADA says its a bargain and the cars full value is $160,000.00

Outstanding effort, the first 2 pics look so perfect it appears to be a state of the art toy model car.

In a word, surreal .

 

This is the color of my 1970 442 Sherwood green black interior .

 

While I appreciate the effort and originality. These cars are for the millionaires and not for the blue collar car guys. So in other words, I don't care about these vehicles. I would rather appreciate a car guy or gal, working on and restoring a vehicle on a middle-class income. Driving the vehicle to shows and not worrying about a "spider building a spiderweb" and causing it to lose 2 points. I read that in the reviews and thought to myself, I would punch the dude in the face if he was in front of me for that. A spider building a spiderweb. Are you FNing kidding me!

These vehicles are for the Barret Jackson millionaires who buy and sell these vehicles as hobbies. They are never driven and just museum showpieces. They don't reflect the real car guys and real hobby. It's the middle class guys that made and make the hobby what it is. Not these trailer queens that cost what a new home goes for.

Lastly, the interior color is HIDEOUS and the vehicle will run 15's. It will get ripped by all of the modern sport/muscle cars today. I could buy 2 brand new C8 Corvettes for the price of this thing and have money left over. Run 11.30s and handle like it's on rails.

 

It looks nice, and its painted to a much higher standard than ever came out of the factory. They claimed starting with a rust free body...blah, blah, blah, but spent $54,000 in NOS parts. Its nice, but its pricey, good luck to them.
The car would certainly run low 14's, perhaps quicker at low altitude drag strips at the time. Where were these cars that run 11.30's in the quarter ? They weren't even on the drawing board when these cars were being manufactured......50 years ago.
........Just my two cents worth.

 

I truly believe you would punch a judge in the face.

 

Nice Car!
The problem with building model Oldsmobile's is that you can pass resale value of the car during restoration.
So if you build model cars don't expect to recoup restoration costs when building less popular cars.

 

^agreed^

Over restored? Perhaps
Enjoyable to see? Absolutely

For me the issue is this:
the opportunity cost of 150k.
If you have that much discretionary cash laying around, congratulations.

What to do with 150 large today?

- Two years at university of Chicago
- World cruise on Azamara
- Pay down/ off your mortgage(s)

Or my preference:
- Drop 30 K on a great A body Oldsmobile and invest the rest!

 

Nice W-30.

 

That's a nice piece of furniture. I thought my wife spent alot at the furniture store when she bought a new La-Z-Boy sectional!

 

Even at the millionaire auctions like Barrett Jackson, it would be difficult to pull $150k for an Olds like this.

IF this hobby is to survive the next 10+ years, it requires the younger generation to get involved. Otherwise, this hobby will die and only the wealthy millionaires will be buying and trading these $100k+ vehicles, only to sit in their 10 car warehouses as museum showpieces. Never to be driven.

Part of the survivable also requires these vehicles to be modified for better stopping, handling and driveability. Better aftermarket brakes, aftermarket suspension, modified engines, transmissions and differentials. Why would someone want to spend $100k on a vehicle that is slower, handles poorly, stops dangerously slow, and is less reliable? When one can put down $60k and get a modern muscle sports car with a warranty that will outperform & destroy a stock 1970 Olds 442 W-30 and run circles around it in every way.

 

Perhaps, however, as many on here might be thinking...

“But I didn’t grow up with a modern muscle car I grew up with a 1968-1972 442!”


I have a modern muscle car as a daily driver (0-60 in 4.4 seconds) but nothing beats taking out my ‘71 to enjoy a leisurely drive. If someone has a trailer queen that’s a choice - but I bought mine to drive.... even when it drops a tie rod at 40 miles an hour 😳

 

LMFAO, you caught that also, don't forget the piece of lint or smudge on manifold. 1 point per violation deducted i believe. It speaks volumes to how mint these cars being judged are. Literally looking for any excuse to take away points and make a difference.

Not 66-72 W30s they were all beasts, this car will destroy my 69 stock to stock.

100%, I've been driving 35 years Ralph. A lot of car guys today like to say oh that's no big deal, a new Camry or Honda are just as quick, but they want to talk a 2010 vehicle. What did the Camry or its equivalent run back then ? Or 10 or even 20 years after this 442 rolled out of the showroom ? By 1990 this W30 was still a beast. You needed a GNX and its power adder or the like to be able to mess with it.

Bottom line these cars were bad *** in 1970 bad *** in 1980 bad *** in 1990 etc etc and will still be bad *** in 2020 and beyond. It doesn't matter that a 2018 Dodge Demon runs a 9.65 @ 140 mph. That will never take away a muscle era 442s aura. They made there mark a long time ago.

Definitely, very much so, have gotten that from friends and car guys alike over the years. That is more the norm across most brands than the exception. You sink 50k into a car you'll be lucky to see 25k. Some mopars may be the exception, where you can spend like a drunken sailor and recoup your money or do even better.

Personally I say buy a car you want and do what you do because you love it not as an investment. I have never bought a car with its resale value in mind, ever.

Absolutely !

I couldn't agree more. While i don't own modern muscle, my Jag feels silly quick to me with a 0-60 of 5.3 seconds. (Your car being 1 second faster must feel utterly ridiculous.) The Jag is 2 seconds faster than my 69 in 0-60 and likely 2 seconds quicker in 1/4 mile. Great car, comfortable, power everything. Windshield wipers turn themselves on and off, heater / ac turns itself on and off, according to the weather. Power head rests for crying out loud. But push comes to shove and I want to drive the 69.

There is something special about these cars and its more than just past performance.

 

Sweet W-30. Folks need to keep in mind that there's a different slice of the hobby for everyone. It takes an incredible amount of detail to restore a car to this level. If the ad in indeed true regarding NOS parts, that's not an easy task chasing down those rare parts and referencing part numbers. It appears the car has NOS front brake hoses which are incredibly hard to find and quite pricey. I'd be willing to bet that car has more than $145k in to it, and IMO appears to be a fair market value for a W-30 of the caliber.

 

Exactly. Driving it like they were designed to be. Trailer queens and museum cars is not where the hobby is. Summit, Jegs, etc. all were built and became profitable because people built, raced and drove the cars. Cars like this $150k are reserved for the millionaires but they don't represent the hobby

 

Couldn't that same argument be applied to vendors like Inline Tube, Brothers, Fusick, etc.? Those places exist to provide factory correct parts used on councours / trailer queen cars.

 

Not really. Summit generates $100's of millions in gross revenue per year vs Brothers, Fusick, etc. which would be in the $10's or $100's of thousands.

Go to any local car show meet on a summer Friday or Saturday night. None of the vehicles there will be concourse/trailer queens. Only time those vehicles show-up anywhere are car auctions and national events. The Friday & Saturday car shows will have real street cars and real budget builds.

Our car group always laughs at a vehicle that needs to be pulled by a pickup truck, enclosed in a trailer, as it can't drive down the street because it's too prissy to get it's tires dirty. What a joke and disgrace for a vehicle. That's like a horse that can't run. It's an abomination of nature. Just like the trailer queen in an abomination of automotive mechanics.

 

I know this car it was restored near me. The owner spent 4 yrs tracking down parts I ended up buying doubles of there nos stuff. They spent the time and research on this car. One of the best nos restored car by far. They liked the green on green and passed on a black 4 speed to restore
. I passed on the car 10 years ago for 110.000.00. The new owner had the car on a lift and it fell off the lift. damaged to the quarter panel was done. If I had stupid money I would own it in a heart beat.

 

I remember seeing this car at the Olds Nationals in MI, around 2008. The owner had an album, about as thick as an old phone book, with individual pictures of all the NOS parts used, before they were put on the car. He was very proud of the car and he had a right to be as it was stunning. His paint guy (Greg was his first name) from OH was also there; apparently they went to great lengths to match the paint after the lift accident. Actually they went to great lengths with every aspect of this car. I think they started with a nice car before the restoration too.