I could have bought a 64 442 factory 4 speed today, but let it go... I'm sure someone form this site scooped it up.....

 

If it was a real 64 442, it would have to be a 4-speed. What were they asking and what condition was it in. That is a very desirable and rare car.

 

$3,500 I only seen a few pictures.... I should have driven up to make the deal, only 1 hour drive.. Big Mistake on my part...

 

You have to be kidding us. The air cleaner is almost with that much. Is today April 1st.

 

Well I guess I screwed up big time....

 

to say the least , you might get another chance when flipped for 13500

 

Or $33,500 after it gets cleaned up a little. Know if there was any paperwork?

 

Not sure on the paper work.....

 

I hate car flippers. Shooting is too good for them.

 

Seller phone number?
20 years ago, I passed on a fully documented '64 4-4-2 ragtop. Was a Bondo buggy, but I still regret.

 

I'm not a flipper either.. When I buy a car, I buy because I like it, not to flip.....

 

Although some flippers are obnoxious, I don't fault them or hate them. They are just business people trying to make a buck. We are all jealous because they found the cars and we didn't. Granted I think some of them are ******.
65B01Delta, I hate to say it but that is one major screwup. You could have doubled or tripled you money and somebody would have still got a good deal from you. It will be interesting to see if we see this car soon.

 

I talked with the owner today he owned the car since 1975 drove the for a few years, had engine rebuilt, repaint (enamel).. The car sat outside for years and was moved to a friends pole barn for the remaining 5. He said it needs floor boards, trunk pan and a lot of Love (rust). Also he will pass my contact info to the new owner, maybe he will call, maybe not.. I would have to admit that it need more than what I could have done, so I probably would have made it roadworthy and drive for a few years, then maybe sell it..

 

Not me. I'm way smarter than that. I'd probably try to do everything to make it perfect and immediately get in over my head.

 

I despise flippers. They can make a buck off someone else's hobby. They add nothing to the car, other than a higher price tag. Yes, it's good business, yes, it's capitalism, but yes, Jesus kicked the money changers out of the temple, and we could all do a lot worse than to follow His example.

 

I do both, if a cars a great deal like that one was, I will jump on it, clean it, fix it and flip it. Some I keep for a few years, others I sale in a week or two, why hate me ! just because someone else let it go, and I bought it ! some people don't know how to fix a car, they buy it, and it sets in a yard , or shed for 10 years , then they sell it, mostly at a lost. at least I get it back on the road for someone else to drive it and enjoy it, it's that what should happen with all great cars?

P.S. I buy parts from a lot of the sellers on here, most of them buy them and cut them up, and sell the parts. ( for profit ) is that the same thing as flipping?

 

The verb is "sell".

 

thanks, I will fix that , just like I fix cars

 

I don't mind the " flippers " as much as the " hoarders " .
The ones that leave a car sit outside for years , because they are too cheap or shiftless to put them in proper inside storage .
They turn down reasonable offers because they think " that car is going to be worth a fortune someday " .
Meanwhile , the car rusts , weathers, and rots to the point where it is practically worthless to anyone except the scrap dealer .

At least the " flipper " will put the car in the hands of someone who will care for it and preserve it .

 

You are right on with that Charlie.

 

That marked up car you flipped just put itself out of someone's price range who would desperately love to be in our hobby, but has very little money. That's why. It has to do with markup. Many flippers cheat a little old lady widow out of what the car is worth, then flip it, with no work done, for primo dinero, and rob the above guy of a possible car because now he can't afford it.


It's one thing to buy one for what it is worth, put some care into it, then sell it for an increased value whenever you want to. That's fine. What's not fine is swindling people on both ends and not being in the hobby for being in the hobby.



Parts cars are a different thing entirely.

 

"It's one thing to buy one for what it is worth, put some care into it, then sell it for an increased value whenever you want to. That's fine. What's not fine is swindling people on both ends and not being in the hobby for being in the hobby"

I agree with this statement 100% and I am sure there are some of these guys out there but I think it is a small percent of them. Unfortunately this is not a hobby for people with little money. Old cars only take two things and that is patience and money and lots of both.

 

This. If somebody with little money did make that score, the car would probably sit rotting away under a tarp in his front yard waiting for a restoration that's never going to happen while the owner chases away anybody who expresses interest in it.

It's better off with the flipper.

 

The thing about flippers is that they don't pay to register the cars or pay taxes on their sales income. legally speaking, they need to do one or the other.



But I have no issue with the buy-low / sell-high approach.

 

Here it is Guys.... $12,900 is a bit high I think... I seen a restored one and the Guy was asking 33k... Your opinions, thoughts, comments......


https://www.500classicauto.com/1964_..._20472065.veh#

 

About 2x high.

 

Well that didnt take long. Meet the used car salesman, to whom it's always about the profit.

 

I keep checking eBay, I figured it would show up there...

 

If you spend at least $30-$35 thousand on a restoration then you have over $40 grand in the car. I don't know the values on these cars but that seems high. He is trying to sell it for almost 4 times what he paid for it.

 

Its on eBay .......


https://www.ebay.com/itm/442/2926019...torefresh=true

 

He broke even , now let the bidding wars begin....

 

They made lots of 64 Cutlass's but the 442 air cleaner is the cats meow.

 

 

 

 

Good eye, I missed that on the control arm... Also I didn't thing the bell housing looked right..

 

Keener, I'm pretty sure my 1965 442 is only boxed part of the way and I thought it was that way from the factory. John

 

 

Now that I think of it I remember reading they were not boxed all the way.. They box them further due the the cracking and even further later on... The owner told me it was all original except the shifter, he when he had the engine rebuilt...

 

Hopefully some one for this site will buy it...