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Old Aug 11, 2015 | 02:40 PM
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Old Aug 11, 2015 | 03:38 PM
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Yup. That was one of them.
Old Aug 11, 2015 | 05:57 PM
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hey cmon i wanna know too

is it the weld on the LCA ?
Old Aug 11, 2015 | 06:41 PM
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Real or not, it made me kind of throw up in my mouth when I saw it. A 4 wheeled tangerine that was sideswiped by a poorly re-striped 68 442.

From the description:
It was Striped down to bare metal and repainted.

And keeps on bleeding through no matter what he does.




Old Aug 11, 2015 | 09:08 PM
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That was definitely just painted over not striped from what I can see . That part is not cool if they say it was in the description .
Old Aug 13, 2015 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RetroRanger
is it the weld on the LCA ?
The weld is from boxing in the LCA.
Old Aug 13, 2015 | 04:31 PM
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Hi Allan

yes the weld is from boxing the LCA but i thought there was a continuous weld VS 1.5" sections of weld issue w original VS aftermarket boxed LCAs ?
Old Aug 13, 2015 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RetroRanger
Hi Allan

yes the weld is from boxing the LCA but i thought there was a continuous weld VS 1.5" sections of weld issue w original VS aftermarket boxed LCAs ?
No, OE were more like a 2-3 inch welds as evidenced here. You'll have to look kind of hard to see. (These were hastily taken to show the point)
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Old Aug 13, 2015 | 08:47 PM
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All it needs is a spoiler. Lol
Old Aug 14, 2015 | 07:58 AM
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67 and earlier 442s are a different bird to authenticate from the 68 and ups with the vin derivatives. All the 442 parts are bolt on, even the cowl tag. The only true way is the protectoplate, but most have lost that. There are a few ones that no one catches, though, and that's how you know.
Old Aug 14, 2015 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Koda
67 and earlier 442s are a different bird to authenticate from the 68 and ups with the vin derivatives. All the 442 parts are bolt on, even the cowl tag. The only true way is the protectoplate, but most have lost that. There are a few ones that no one catches, though, and that's how you know.
Huh are you saying my firewall tag for my 67 442 is a bolt on? Are you saying a 67 can be a fake if it is riveted with factory rivets to the firewall.Tell you what pm me your cell number then you tell me what i have!
Old Aug 14, 2015 | 11:27 AM
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Huh are you saying my firewall tag for my 67 442 is a bolt on? Are you saying a 67 can be a fake if it is riveted with factory rivets to the firewall.Tell you what pm me your cell number then you tell me what i have!
The correct factory rivets for the cowl tag are $12.50 a pair on ebay.
Old Aug 14, 2015 | 12:24 PM
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So your saying the cowl tag rivets on my 67 are not correct?
Old Aug 14, 2015 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
The correct factory rivets for the cowl tag are $12.50 a pair on ebay.
Want to look how aged mine is? Can stuff like this be faked yes. I will furnish anything i can with what was left of this car you want for you to verify.I think this car i own is a 1967 442 post car period from the factory. I bought it as a roller no motor or tranny.At some point in the future i am going to sell this one i think. I am putting a drive train in it now. The reason to help get funds to finish my tube chassis race car.

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Old Aug 14, 2015 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by wr1970
Huh are you saying my firewall tag for my 67 442 is a bolt on? Are you saying a 67 can be a fake if it is riveted with factory rivets to the firewall.Tell you what pm me your cell number then you tell me what i have!
No sir, sounds like you have a real 442. What I meant is that everything to fake a 442 is bolt on, so one can fake one to the n'th degree if they try hard enough (without a protectoplate, I mean)
Old Aug 21, 2015 | 07:31 PM
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^^^This. It isn't that the car is an incorrect restoration, it's that this design feature isn't that great looking on the original 68s - it's a CHRYSLER bumblebee stripe, fer cryin' out loud. Forcing it on this car is exactly as Diego describes. It's like the W-25 hoods for the 73-77 and G-body cars. The original W-25 scoops were designed to parallel the leading edge of the hood and mimic the width of the grilles. In those non-factory applications, the scoops were not reshaped to match the design of those cars and look ridiculous. Of course, still not as bad as the W-25 hoods for the 1988-98 Chevy pickups.


I found something worse.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Oldsmobile-4...783&rmvSB=true

Old Aug 21, 2015 | 07:50 PM
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It's an interesting looking car. Also noted that it has a 70-72 AC dash bezel for AC amongst it's "customized telemetry". Would have liked to see the 68/9 tic toc tach instead of that cheezy GM Motorsports tach. Still, IMO it's worth the BIN.
Old Aug 21, 2015 | 10:29 PM
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It kinda grows on ya... I like it.

Sure does!
Old Aug 22, 2015 | 06:21 PM
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The head-on pic makes it look kinda cross-eyed - the scoops would work better on the '68 if they were farther apart from each other.
Old Aug 22, 2015 | 06:32 PM
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Gah!
Old Aug 23, 2015 | 07:27 AM
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That sure is purty !
Old Aug 23, 2015 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by oldcutlass
The only person that has to like a car is the owner, at least till it goes up for sale.

I agree with you Eric, but once offered for sale, then we can bash it all we want to lol.
I didn't like it at first, but now I think it has grown on me a little.
Old Aug 24, 2015 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Diego
- the scoops would work better on the '68 if they were farther apart from each other.
... and under the bumper.
Old Aug 24, 2015 | 03:11 PM
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Ha!
Old Aug 24, 2015 | 07:42 PM
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The 67 parking light OAI was so awesome. Why it did not come to 68 is beyond me, as the headlamp and parking light orientation is similar.
Old Aug 24, 2015 | 07:44 PM
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I personally don't like that system because it's so subtle. When it comes to performance cars, sometimes those scoops poking from under the bumper add to the street cred.
Old Mar 23, 2018 | 07:43 AM
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Saw this today on CL in the Bay Area. Says it's a real 442, numbers matching. Guess he didn't have the original W-36 stripes when he re did the paint. Those 442 numbers must be stick-ons!
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Old Mar 23, 2018 | 07:53 AM
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Saw this today on CL in the Bay Area. Says it's a real 442, numbers matching. Guess he didn't have the original W-36 stripes when he re did the paint. Those 442 numbers must be stick-ons!
Old Mar 23, 2018 | 08:10 AM
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Looks like Urkel did it.
Old Mar 23, 2018 | 08:13 AM
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You should look at all the pics on the Facebook OCA club page proudly posted by owners.
Old Mar 23, 2018 | 08:38 AM
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... and under the bumper.
Quoting BlackGold to wake him up from hibernation. That is all.
Old Mar 24, 2018 | 03:33 AM
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I'm at a loss for words?? By the looks of the "442" placement on the fenders this was a factory W36 car.
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Old Mar 24, 2018 | 04:37 AM
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Like I said, I am glad this was brought to light. I could have purchased a 68 442, maybe one day:-$, probably a gutted shell and assumed that I needed that stripe, so many have them added. I like the stripe but would want it factory correct. Most of these cars didn't have and are done completely wrong.
Old Mar 24, 2018 | 07:20 AM
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The 68's get the stripe added on. The 70-72s get the oai hood and spoiler. Nobody seems to monkey too much with the 67s or 69s, correct me if I am forgetting some common calamity that people do to them.
Old Mar 24, 2018 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by oldcutlass
You should look at all the pics on the Facebook OCA club page proudly posted by owners.
I’ve posted the assembly manual page of the correct W36 stripe placement on the OCA FB page more times than I can count and people still argue with me.
Old Mar 25, 2018 | 06:17 AM
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The 68's get the stripe added on. The 70-72s get the oai hood and spoiler. Nobody seems to monkey too much with the 67s or 69s, correct me if I am forgetting some common calamity that people do to them.
If you have a 69 you need to add the 68 stripe ( wrong location is preferable), and add the 70 OAI hood and rear spoiler

I'm just having fun I don't mind what you do to your car as long as your rolling olds
Old Mar 25, 2018 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by RetroRanger
If you have a 69 you need to add the 68 stripe ( wrong location is preferable), and add the 70 OAI hood and rear spoiler

I'm just having fun I don't mind what you do to your car as long as your rolling olds
Haha.

Oh, I forgot, people DO do things to 67s. 67s have the benefit of a lot of 442 only stuff, and everyone wants to add those items to a non-442 (hood, grille, blacked out rear trim.) That, and put taillights in the bottom spots on a straight Cutlass bumper and have no reverse lights.
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Originally Posted by allyolds68



I’ve posted the assembly manual page of the correct W36 stripe placement on the OCA FB page more times than I can count and people still argue with me.
Bah, what would the factory know. You know, the one that built these cars.
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