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Old Aug 9, 2015 | 01:38 PM
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Yet another W-36 violation...

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Old Aug 9, 2015 | 01:40 PM
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LOL.
Old Aug 9, 2015 | 01:42 PM
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Why???
Old Aug 9, 2015 | 02:27 PM
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The car isnt exactly a factory restoration. So what exactly is the problem?

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Old Aug 9, 2015 | 07:35 PM
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It kinda grows on ya... I like it.
Old Aug 9, 2015 | 07:46 PM
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May not be factory, but its different. Looks good I think. Nice car, I love 67's.
Old Aug 9, 2015 | 09:17 PM
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He must live in California,notice the lack of wiper blades.
Old Aug 9, 2015 | 09:34 PM
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The reason why not is not because it is incorrect, because, like TK says, with the not correct mirror or wheels or color, who cares? The reason why is design clash. The Cutlass Supreme, with or without 442 package, had that wide molding designed to go the length of the car smoothly and hop the wheels. The vertical 442 stripe blasts right through that design aesthetic and wrecks it.

Now, on an F-85 of that year, sure. (F-85 model, not just the body code.)


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Old Aug 9, 2015 | 09:34 PM
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Edit: that may be the correct mirror, I can't tell from the pic.
Old Aug 9, 2015 | 09:47 PM
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I think that there is a '69 on ebay with it also.
Old Aug 9, 2015 | 10:20 PM
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Orange and white works.

I saw that car on ebay. I know its not factory but not much seems to be factory looking on the car, so it's all good with me. Could be worse - there could be rallye stripes over it right out to the decklid.

Pet peeve of mine - decklid stripes. Buy a chevelle, buddy.
Old Aug 10, 2015 | 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Koda
Edit: that may be the correct mirror, I can't tell from the pic.
That is a correct mirror.
Old Aug 10, 2015 | 01:46 AM
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The reason why is design clash.
I agree, but not for the reason you state. Rather, it's inspired by a design on a completely different car. It's like putting a W-25 hood on this car without any consideration that it actually works.
Old Aug 10, 2015 | 01:50 AM
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The car looks cool to me .
Old Aug 10, 2015 | 08:06 AM
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I agree, but not for the reason you state. Rather, it's inspired by a design on a completely different car. It's like putting a W-25 hood on this car without any consideration that it actually works.
^^^This. It isn't that the car is an incorrect restoration, it's that this design feature isn't that great looking on the original 68s - it's a CHRYSLER bumblebee stripe, fer cryin' out loud. Forcing it on this car is exactly as Diego describes. It's like the W-25 hoods for the 73-77 and G-body cars. The original W-25 scoops were designed to parallel the leading edge of the hood and mimic the width of the grilles. In those non-factory applications, the scoops were not reshaped to match the design of those cars and look ridiculous. Of course, still not as bad as the W-25 hoods for the 1988-98 Chevy pickups.

Old Aug 10, 2015 | 09:41 AM
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I agree with the "design clash" statement. I had to deal with a similar situation with my '68 when I bought it. One of the 1st things I did was remove the W-30 style stripe. It just didn't belong
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Old Aug 10, 2015 | 09:46 AM
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It's nice that it's on 68s only, as it's neat by being rare, and it works on that body. But, it's neat because it's rare. Were it to be a 68-72 things, all cars would have it with the oai hood and the wing.
Old Aug 10, 2015 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
^^^This. It isn't that the car is an incorrect restoration, it's that this design feature isn't that great looking on the original 68s - it's a CHRYSLER bumblebee stripe, fer cryin' out loud. Forcing it on this car is exactly as Diego describes. It's like the W-25 hoods for the 73-77 and G-body cars. The original W-25 scoops were designed to parallel the leading edge of the hood and mimic the width of the grilles. In those non-factory applications, the scoops were not reshaped to match the design of those cars and look ridiculous. Of course, still not as bad as the W-25 hoods for the 1988-98 Chevy pickups.

JOE! JOE! I JUST bought a 98 GM suv! I can get one of those hoods! I don't even have to paint it, it'll be THAT COOL.
Old Aug 10, 2015 | 09:51 AM
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What snafu?

Oh, yeah, the stripe is wider than the emblem.

Ha ha ha ha
Old Aug 10, 2015 | 10:08 AM
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Probably the worst infraction of the stripes ever seen.


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I'm just glad that I'm not that deeply into politically correctness with these cars that they have to be perfect in every way in order for me to like it .
Old Aug 10, 2015 | 11:19 AM
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I don't like it on a 68
Old Aug 10, 2015 | 11:45 AM
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Ok , so they have a 67 hood on a 68 ? This is the issue with this car ? I have to admit the correct hood would look better if this is the case but I still like it .
Old Aug 10, 2015 | 11:54 AM
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Nah, it's a 67 car with a 68 stripe.
Old Aug 10, 2015 | 02:38 PM
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the car is not original from the start, so i think the stripe looks pretty nice
Old Aug 10, 2015 | 03:14 PM
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I put a wing on my 1967 cs race car and everyone who has seen it likes the way it looks.What do i care if it isn't correct for that year.
Old Aug 10, 2015 | 03:51 PM
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I put a wing on my 1967 cs race car and everyone who has seen it likes the way it looks.What do i care if it isn't correct for that year.
The only person that has to like a car is the owner, at least till it goes up for sale.
Old Aug 10, 2015 | 04:00 PM
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I don't think it looks to bad but for the price he asking you would have to love what he's done to the car. I could be wrong be if that car was once really a 442 it no longer is and can't see it ever increasing in value along side of a true un modified 67 442. My cars paint is not for everyone but I like it and my car is just a cutlass. I paid almost 20k less then he is asking and I like mine better looks wise, one day I will have the 455
Old Aug 10, 2015 | 04:56 PM
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I think a set of wide white wall tires, curb feelers and fur on the steering wheel would really set it off!
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I think a set of wide white wall tires, curb feelers and fur on the steering wheel would really set it off!

Nah, a chain for a steering wheel...
Old Aug 10, 2015 | 11:07 PM
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You people are getting a bit carried away . Who cares about a stripe ! Just like who cares how original your cars are either . If the car WAS a 442 and now it looks like this then I can see your side of it a bit more , but if it wasn't a 442 in the first place then so what !
Old Aug 11, 2015 | 04:14 AM
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I thought the car is a 442!
Old Aug 11, 2015 | 07:42 AM
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The car is not a Lansing car, it's whatever BF code is, so it has those funny numbers on the cowl. No 5V. It is a Cutlass Supreme Post car. The blackout is not on the upper rear lights nor trunk trim, which is probably the most common tell of a clone, as anyone can remember the badges.The second biggest tell of a clone of a 67 is the Cutlass headlamp buckets with the notch for the Cutlass grille bar. It has the 442 non notched ones. He could have decided to simply not black out the back though.

I think it probably is a 442 body, but he has no proof, nor does it really matter. His BIN is too high, a stock correct resto would barely get that, but the reserve might be appropriate. Considering how you can source a correct date coded 400 for this year, it could be a good car to get and invest 5k in and make it right.
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Make it whatever YOU think is right ! That don't mean everyone else does !
Old Aug 11, 2015 | 11:19 AM
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Make it whatever YOU think is right ! That don't mean everyone else does !
I don't think anyone disputes that.
Old Aug 11, 2015 | 12:08 PM
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The car is not a Lansing car, it's whatever BF code is, so it has those funny numbers on the cowl. No 5V. It is a Cutlass Supreme Post car.

So those funny numbers told you it wasnt a 442? Its a Fremont car, which have no 442 identification on the cowl tag. Which means every Fremont 442 built has a tag that looks just like this one.

There is a photo however that gives away its true identity.
Old Aug 11, 2015 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Koda
The car is not a Lansing car, it's whatever BF code is, so it has those funny numbers on the cowl. No 5V. It is a Cutlass Supreme Post car.
Correct me if I'm wrong. BF is Freemont CA production, and 442's of this era built at Freemont didn't have the designation for 442 on the cowl tags.

Cosmetics can always be changed. The car looks very solid in the pics. I think the change to orange from pewter makes it more appealing. I don't even mind the stripe since it doesn't go all the way to the rocker. Someone did a nice job with the upholstery and finishing.

Noted: B30 - RPO for carpet, B90 - RPO for chrome window frame. The TRM of 390 describes a black bucket seat sport coupe.

Curious if the seller has the original Protecto Plate. If he does it will identify the car as a 442 by the 442 only engine number. Don't always need a build sheet to verify a 442, but it sure helps. Don't know why Freemont had to be different than Lansing or Framingham.

Nice turnkey car.
Old Aug 11, 2015 | 12:26 PM
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So those funny numbers told you it wasnt a 442? Its a Fremont car, which have no 442 identification on the cowl tag. Which means every Fremont 442 built has a tag that looks just like this one.

There is a photo however that gives away its true identity.
I did not say that it's not a 442 by the cowl tag.

Which photo and feature do you think establishes the car one way or the other? I looked at them again and noticed a couple things the second time around that I didn't the first time.
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Its fairly obvious.

So what exactly were you insinuating when you said this about the cowl tag.

No 5V. It is a Cutlass Supreme Post car.

Thats its just a Cutlass Supreme post car? Those those funny numbers have nothing to do with that either. But you are correct, its a CS Sports Coupe.

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Old Aug 11, 2015 | 01:48 PM
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I'm sure it is fairly obvious. However, I'm not sure you're right, so I would like to know what you think it is.

I should have said Cutlass Post Body, not car. The cowl tag does not, in this case, determine the presence of the 442 package.



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