Yet another W-36 violation...
August 9th, 2015, 09:34 PM
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The reason why not is not because it is incorrect, because, like TK says, with the not correct mirror or wheels or color, who cares? The reason why is design clash. The Cutlass Supreme, with or without 442 package, had that wide molding designed to go the length of the car smoothly and hop the wheels. The vertical 442 stripe blasts right through that design aesthetic and wrecks it.
Now, on an F-85 of that year, sure. (F-85 model, not just the body code.)
Now, on an F-85 of that year, sure. (F-85 model, not just the body code.)
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August 9th, 2015, 10:20 PM
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Orange and white works.
I saw that car on ebay. I know its not factory but not much seems to be factory looking on the car, so it's all good with me. Could be worse - there could be rallye stripes over it right out to the decklid.
Pet peeve of mine - decklid stripes. Buy a chevelle, buddy.
Pet peeve of mine - decklid stripes. Buy a chevelle, buddy.
August 10th, 2015, 01:46 AM
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August 10th, 2015, 08:06 AM
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August 10th, 2015, 09:41 AM
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I agree with the "design clash" statement. I had to deal with a similar situation with my '68 when I bought it. One of the 1st things I did was remove the W-30 style stripe. It just didn't belong
August 10th, 2015, 09:46 AM
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It's nice that it's on 68s only, as it's neat by being rare, and it works on that body. But, it's neat because it's rare. Were it to be a 68-72 things, all cars would have it with the oai hood and the wing.
August 10th, 2015, 09:47 AM
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^^^This. It isn't that the car is an incorrect restoration, it's that this design feature isn't that great looking on the original 68s - it's a CHRYSLER bumblebee stripe, fer cryin' out loud. Forcing it on this car is exactly as Diego describes. It's like the W-25 hoods for the 73-77 and G-body cars. The original W-25 scoops were designed to parallel the leading edge of the hood and mimic the width of the grilles. In those non-factory applications, the scoops were not reshaped to match the design of those cars and look ridiculous. Of course, still not as bad as the W-25 hoods for the 1988-98 Chevy pickups.
August 10th, 2015, 03:51 PM
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August 10th, 2015, 04:00 PM
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I don't think it looks to bad but for the price he asking you would have to love what he's done to the car. I could be wrong be if that car was once really a 442 it no longer is and can't see it ever increasing in value along side of a true un modified 67 442. My cars paint is not for everyone but I like it and my car is just a cutlass. I paid almost 20k less then he is asking and I like mine better looks wise, one day I will have the 455 
August 10th, 2015, 11:07 PM
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You people are getting a bit carried away . Who cares about a stripe ! Just like who cares how original your cars are either . If the car WAS a 442 and now it looks like this then I can see your side of it a bit more , but if it wasn't a 442 in the first place then so what !
August 11th, 2015, 07:42 AM
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The car is not a Lansing car, it's whatever BF code is, so it has those funny numbers on the cowl. No 5V. It is a Cutlass Supreme Post car. The blackout is not on the upper rear lights nor trunk trim, which is probably the most common tell of a clone, as anyone can remember the badges.The second biggest tell of a clone of a 67 is the Cutlass headlamp buckets with the notch for the Cutlass grille bar. It has the 442 non notched ones. He could have decided to simply not black out the back though.
I think it probably is a 442 body, but he has no proof, nor does it really matter. His BIN is too high, a stock correct resto would barely get that, but the reserve might be appropriate. Considering how you can source a correct date coded 400 for this year, it could be a good car to get and invest 5k in and make it right.
I think it probably is a 442 body, but he has no proof, nor does it really matter. His BIN is too high, a stock correct resto would barely get that, but the reserve might be appropriate. Considering how you can source a correct date coded 400 for this year, it could be a good car to get and invest 5k in and make it right.
August 11th, 2015, 12:08 PM
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So those funny numbers told you it wasnt a 442? Its a Fremont car, which have no 442 identification on the cowl tag. Which means every Fremont 442 built has a tag that looks just like this one.
There is a photo however that gives away its true identity.
August 11th, 2015, 12:12 PM
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Cosmetics can always be changed. The car looks very solid in the pics. I think the change to orange from pewter makes it more appealing. I don't even mind the stripe since it doesn't go all the way to the rocker. Someone did a nice job with the upholstery and finishing.
Noted: B30 - RPO for carpet, B90 - RPO for chrome window frame. The TRM of 390 describes a black bucket seat sport coupe.
Curious if the seller has the original Protecto Plate. If he does it will identify the car as a 442 by the 442 only engine number. Don't always need a build sheet to verify a 442, but it sure helps. Don't know why Freemont had to be different than Lansing or Framingham.
Nice turnkey car.
August 11th, 2015, 12:26 PM
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Which photo and feature do you think establishes the car one way or the other? I looked at them again and noticed a couple things the second time around that I didn't the first time.
August 11th, 2015, 12:37 PM
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Its fairly obvious.
So what exactly were you insinuating when you said this about the cowl tag.
No 5V. It is a Cutlass Supreme Post car.
Thats its just a Cutlass Supreme post car? Those those funny numbers have nothing to do with that either. But you are correct, its a CS Sports Coupe.
So what exactly were you insinuating when you said this about the cowl tag.
No 5V. It is a Cutlass Supreme Post car.
Thats its just a Cutlass Supreme post car? Those those funny numbers have nothing to do with that either. But you are correct, its a CS Sports Coupe.
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August 11th, 2015, 01:48 PM
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I'm sure it is fairly obvious. However, I'm not sure you're right, so I would like to know what you think it is.
I should have said Cutlass Post Body, not car. The cowl tag does not, in this case, determine the presence of the 442 package.
I should have said Cutlass Post Body, not car. The cowl tag does not, in this case, determine the presence of the 442 package.
