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Old April 22nd, 2020, 11:59 PM
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The parts book lists ‘40 as the first year for fender skirts so I’d imagine a ‘40 Phaeton being top of the line would have had them
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Skirts were an option in ‘40, but definitely not certain based on being a 90 series. They are shaped slightly different with a straight lower edge, no medallion or jewelry. (Photo from “Setting The Pace”)
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There's very few factory or period photo's of either the '40 or '41 Phaeton but here are a couple


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Old May 15th, 2020, 11:29 PM
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Looks like a solid car Alex. I’m guessing the photos of a cream coloured ‘40 Phaeton over on the NAOC Facebook group are of your car,
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Old May 16th, 2020, 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Alex487
I had seen the red ‘41 you originally posted in 2017 listed still a few months ago, and your link is still active like it might still be for sale. It is described as a manual whereas the grey one 35olds shared is an automatic. The only other ‘40 I’ve seen, other than the black and white brochure pic, was sent to me on another classic car site(blue one in pic).
In the very near future, I will have to get some better pics and probably try to sell mine due to storage space issues and other projects needing attention. Unfortunately, I think the market for these is small and I have no idea how to reach them. I’ll try to get some better pics for everyone to see and maybe pass on to someone who would be interested in restoring this rare gem. It is very impressive in person. Ivory color now, but originally it was dark green.

The red 1941 Olds. for sale in the Carolina's is a Hydramatic ,Look at the pic. of the steering column you can see the shift quadrant.
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Old May 18th, 2020, 12:59 PM
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[QUOTE=Powermat;1249695]Looks like a solid car Alex. I’m guessing the photos of a cream coloured ‘40 Phaeton over on the NAOC Facebook group are of your car,[/QUOTE

I don’t think that is mine, but do wonder where Paul got it from. We had the car shipped down from upstate NY on a truck just like that in the mid 90’s. Background actually looks kind of like my grandparents house where it came from also. Interesting and surprised I’ve never come across that photo before
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Old May 18th, 2020, 01:14 PM
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Here's an interesting article.

https://www.hemmings.com/stories/201...ross-the-block

It's not about an Olds, but apparently other manufacturers produced Phaetons before WWII. Here's a Ford:



I wonder why their popularity waned after WWII?

As I mentioned in an earlier post, the only 4 door convertibles I knew of were the 60s Lincolns. Safety standards didn't eliminate the 4 door hardtop until 1977, right? I also recall that Olds, as well as other manufacturers first started using a roll bar in convertibles in the 90s. Sorry for brainstorming. I still like those Olds Phaetons.


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Old May 18th, 2020, 01:26 PM
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Powermat,

it did just occur to me that I found some paperwork confirming my dad’s membership in, I think, the National Antique Oldsmobile Association. It was several years ago and strangely enough about the same time I was seeking info and joining forums. Funny we were thinking about the same thing in the background of busy lives unbeknownst to each other. It would have been one more great project for us to have together. Unfortunately not, but there’s a great lesson in not procrastinating. Anyway, maybe he sent the pics to Paul and I just didn’t realize
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Old May 18th, 2020, 03:33 PM
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Alex,
With the low production numbers of the ‘40 it’s hard to imagine that it’s not the same car.
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I can tell you why these cars were not popular after world war 2. Everyone woke up that those are butt ugly cars. Charley Jones the Japanese didn't invade Pearl harbor they bombed it.
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Originally Posted by wr1970
I can tell you why these cars were not popular after world war 2. Everyone woke up that those are butt ugly cars. Charley Jones the Japanese didn't invade Pearl harbor they bombed it.
Damn man...... Harsh
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Not interested in your juvenile comments wr1970. That's why I've blocked your posts.

These pre-war Phaetons are some of the few Oldsmobiles that can fetch a higher price than the late 60s and early 70s muscle cars. The only other Oldsmobiles that are that desirable are probably 50s convertibles or woody wagons. I'd be interested to know what these cars sold for new vs. common cars of the day. Perhaps they were just priced too high to interest buyers after WWII? IMHO, I think they're beautiful cars. One of the FEW Oldsmobiles that I'd understand towing to a car show.
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One of the FEW Oldsmobiles that I'd understand towing to a car show.[/QUOTE

Yep!



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Originally Posted by Funkwagon455
Damn man...... Harsh
My apologies to anyone i offended .
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Old May 19th, 2020, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Funkwagon455
One of the FEW Oldsmobiles that I'd understand towing to a car show.[/QUOTE

Yep!

I gawk at this car every time I see it. Art in motion.
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Originally Posted by wr1970
I can tell you why these cars were not popular after world war 2. Everyone woke up that those are butt ugly cars. Charley Jones the Japanese didn't invade Pearl harbor they bombed it.
The Japanese came to Pearl Harbor ( in aircraft ) and bombed and destroyed or heavily damaged several ships , as well as shore facilities and parked aircraft .
NOT TO MENTION KILLING OVER 3000 MEN AND WOMEN , and wounding many more .

If that is not an invasion , then what is ?
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Old May 19th, 2020, 09:58 AM
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That is not politically correct, you might offend the Japanese!
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Originally Posted by Charlie Jones
The Japanese came to Pearl Harbor ( in aircraft ) and bombed and destroyed or heavily damaged several ships , as well as shore facilities and parked aircraft .
NOT TO MENTION KILLING OVER 3000 MEN AND WOMEN , and wounding many more .

If that is not an invasion , then what is ?
A attack. They never put a foot on Pearl Harbor . Of course I am referring to what people of that time called it. In today's world just about everything is a invasion. Political correctness is far reaching. I hate to think what would have happened if Japan used a invasion force on Pearl Harbor with troops. We very well may have lost world war 2. Back to this thread sorry for the side track.

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Beautiful Olds Funkwagon!
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Old May 19th, 2020, 10:35 AM
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Thank you for kind comments on the coupe. To clarify, I was never offended by any comments made nor should have anyone reading. Let’s not join the ranks of the snowflakes who prefer we’d dance on glass. I can appreciate honesty even if it is delivered rather brutally! Enjoy your cars. Even the ugly ducklings.
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Old January 26th, 2021, 08:38 AM
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Here is Alex's 40 Phaeton listed for sale. Man those are awesome cars!

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...8/2412953.html
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Originally Posted by Olds64
Here is Alex's 40 Phaeton listed for sale. Man those are awesome cars!

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...8/2412953.html
Man, that's awesome! I look at pictures of these old cars and try to imagine them rolling down the road when my parents were of an age to experience them. Wondering, "what was their world like at the time?" What would they have thought about such cars? Mom would have been 13, and dad 21 at the time. Takes me back...
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Old January 26th, 2021, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by wr1970
I can tell you why these cars were not popular after world war 2. Everyone woke up that those are butt ugly cars.
In their time they were considered high style.

The reason the body style disappeared was they were expensive to build and the limited market didn't justify the expense and labor-intensive construction.

Had it not been for unibody construction, doubtful the 61-7 Continental convertible could have been pulled off. The unibody reduced squeaks and rattles better than the 40s cars' body on frame. At the price point these cars were in, stuff like that mattered.
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