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Old Mar 17, 2020 | 10:23 PM
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transmission temperature gauge install

does and don't in installing a temperature gauge in trans pan and the wiring install
Old Mar 18, 2020 | 03:53 AM
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Measure twice, drill once. Pull the pan off, make sure your desired sending unit location doesn’t interfere with anything inside the trans. Make sure you position it between pan bolts. I have seen sending units installed right below a pan bolt, making removal difficult. Wiring is pretty simple, make sure it’s properly fused, and the wiring is protected from heat and moving parts.
Old Mar 18, 2020 | 05:50 AM
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Unless you plan to do a lot of towing or mountain driving, you'll never look at that gauge after the novelty wears off in a week.
Old Mar 18, 2020 | 07:13 AM
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Make sure you don't use teflon tape on any of the fittings. Teflon tape can come apart and pieces can get lodged in the valve body.
Old Mar 18, 2020 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Unless you plan to do a lot of towing or mountain driving, you'll never look at that gauge after the novelty wears off in a week.
I'll ad or racing, other than the above its really not necessary.
Old Mar 18, 2020 | 08:00 AM
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FWIW, I've thought about installing a transmission temp gauge in my truck. I plan to tow with it in the future though.

If you buy one make sure it's full sweep. Auto Meter is the brand to buy. I have an Auto Meter pyrometer and coolant temp sensor in my truck. Plus, I have an Auto Meter tachometer that was in my 64 Oldsmobile 20+ years ago (it still works):

https://www.summitracing.com/search/...-color%3Ablack

Glowshift and ISSPRO are 2 alternatives that are better than HF or parts store cheapies:

https://www.glowshiftdirect.com/

https://www.isspro.com/
Old Mar 18, 2020 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Unless you plan to do a lot of towing or mountain driving, you'll never look at that gauge after the novelty wears off in a week.

I have a trans temp gauge in my Olds, and my 06 Ram. I have no trans cooler on the Olds, the hottest I have ever seen it get is about 190. On the Ram, about 220. That was in 90* plus degree heat, with a trailer, traffic jam, A/C going, for about an hour. Once traffic cleared, the trans cooled back down to its normal 180.

Like every other gauge, within reason the actual numbers aren’t important. Once you know what the normal readings are, you know something isn’t right if the numbers suddenly become abnormal.
Old Mar 18, 2020 | 07:26 PM
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You can never have too many gauges...
Old Mar 18, 2020 | 08:13 PM
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^^^ THAT ^^^ is too funny.
Old Mar 19, 2020 | 06:11 AM
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Ok, I can think of:

1. Speedometer.
2. Tachometer.
3. Fuel (volume remaining)
4. Fuel Pressure
5. Oil Pressure
6. Oil Temp.
7. ATF Temp.
8. Voltmeter or Ammeter.
9. Clock.
10. Boost
11. A/F ratio
12. Engine vacuum (economy meter)
13. Ambient Temp
14. Engine Coolant Temp
15. Attitude
16. G-meter.
17. Compass.
18. Differential oil temp
19. Gear indicator.

That's 19. Dude up there has 33.
Old Mar 19, 2020 | 06:00 PM
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Brake pressure, coolant pressure, exhaust temp (maybe multiple cylinders) axle temp, incline/departure angle..... I’m out of ideas.
Old Mar 19, 2020 | 09:11 PM
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Individual tire pressures including the spare, that makes 5 more.
Old Mar 22, 2020 | 12:29 AM
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Most vital are engine temp, fuel level, voltage, oil pressure, tachometer, speedometer.

Second most important on modified/performance vehicles are trans temp & oil temp. Fuel pressure is also good to know if racing.

Old Mar 27, 2020 | 02:11 PM
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I really like the SpeedHut gauges as they can fit into the factory pods. The OEM "idiot lights" are just that. Lights for idiots as they are pretty much useless as they light up when catastrophe has already struck. When the engine is already overheating, the OEM light turns on. Well, thanks for no warning!

Drivetrains cost thousands or even tens of thousands of dollar. To trust a stupid factory gauge with a light is a gamble not worth taking. A gauge that has detailed readouts is vital in my opinion.
Old Mar 27, 2020 | 02:35 PM
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Lights for idiots as they are pretty much useless as they light up when catastrophe has already struck. When the engine is already overheating, the OEM light turns on. Well, thanks for no warning!
Unfortunately, the problem with gauges is that after the novelty wears off, you don't pay attention to them. What you really need is good gauges AND some sort of warning telltale if normal operating limits are exceeded. Instrumentation in the aerospace systems I work on is designed this way - there is some telltale to get your attention. It might be a master alarm, it might be an idiot light, it might be a change in the color of the gauge from white to red, or something like that. The change calls your attention to the gauge. When I install aftermarket gauges, I keep the idiot lights also. The problem is that the factory sensors are set too high (or low) to be meaningful. The factory temp switch for the HOT light is designed to close above 258 deg F. The oil pressure switch is designed to close below 4 psi. That's why they are "Captain Obvious" gauges (and don't get me started on the BRAKE light...). These idiot lights could be made more useful by changing the switches, and no, I don't have part numbers for better ones.
Old Mar 27, 2020 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Unfortunately, the problem with gauges is that after the novelty wears off, you don't pay attention to them. What you really need is good gauges AND some sort of warning telltale if normal operating limits are exceeded.
That's WHY SpeedHut gauges are so awesome. They have LED warning lights that are set by you. So you can set the LED red warning light lets say at 220F which gives you ample warning that you cooling system (which say runs 200F) is amiss. Gives you time to stop and pull over to inspect what's going on. All of their gauges have programmable LED warning lights that turn on for whatever you program them to.

I've had gauges for DECADES and the "novelty" never wore off. I always check on them while driving, especially in hot weather, towing, climbing a grade, etc.
Old Mar 27, 2020 | 02:59 PM
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That's WHY SpeedHut gauges are so awesome. They have LED warning lights that are set by you.
I did not know that. That's a good feature.

And sorry, but you're never looking at the gauge 100% of the time. Most people don't even look at them at all.
Old Mar 27, 2020 | 03:09 PM
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I always check my gauges when driving. Of course I don't stare at them, I look at the road, but while driving I will glance down to make sure all is OK.

That saved me from being broken down a few times. Just last year the voltage gauge would spike to 17 volts and then drop to 13 volts while driving. Without the gauge, I would not have known, as this was in the daytime so the lights are not dimming or anything. I turn around and cancelled my drive. Pulled into the garage and discovered the internal voltage regulator on the alternator was bad. Pulled the alternator off, used my daily driver to go into town and got a new alternator. Saved me hundreds of dollars from breaking down and having to be towed home.

Same thing with the oil pressure and engine temp gauges. Spun a cam bearing and the slight drop (10 lbs) in oil pressure was a warning for me. Oil pressure was always 50psi hot while cruising and then it dropped down to 40psi all of a sudden. That told me something is wrong. Pulled the motor and found a spun cam bearing. Without the gauge, I would have kept driving and eventually destroyed the motor, costing me thousands and thousands of dollars. Instead, I just spent a few hundred bucks and put it back together and it ran perfectly.


Old Mar 28, 2020 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by matt69olds
Measure twice, drill once. Pull the pan off, make sure your desired sending unit location doesn’t interfere with anything inside the trans. Make sure you position it between pan bolts. I have seen sending units installed right below a pan bolt, making removal difficult. Wiring is pretty simple, make sure it’s properly fused, and the wiring is protected from heat and moving parts.
Good advice. I put a trans drain plug into a TH400 pan...and then couldn't install the pan because the new drain plug interfered with the filter. I still have that pan as a reminder to myself to be smarter than the parts I'm installing.

Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Unfortunately, the problem with gauges is that after the novelty wears off, you don't pay attention to them. What you really need is good gauges AND some sort of warning telltale if normal operating limits are exceeded. Instrumentation in the aerospace systems I work on is designed this way - there is some telltale to get your attention. It might be a master alarm, it might be an idiot light, it might be a change in the color of the gauge from white to red, or something like that. The change calls your attention to the gauge. When I install aftermarket gauges, I keep the idiot lights also. The problem is that the factory sensors are set too high (or low) to be meaningful. The factory temp switch for the HOT light is designed to close above 258 deg F. The oil pressure switch is designed to close below 4 psi. That's why they are "Captain Obvious" gauges (and don't get me started on the BRAKE light...). These idiot lights could be made more useful by changing the switches, and no, I don't have part numbers for better ones.
Clearly, GM doesn't want the light to come on even for minor problems, because that could generate "warranty repair" paperwork which costs money even if there's no problem found.

I have noticed that my '88 K1500 has a "check gauges" warning light. Over-temperature, or under-pressure may be signaled by the gauge, but it also turns on an "idiot light" to get my attention.
Old Mar 28, 2020 | 02:45 PM
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My old Chevy had a crazy high temp gauge, but it was right, and I replaced the thermostat with a cooler, performance one. Still needs a radiator recored.

I have had to stop twice. My old Explorer had a catastrophic failure of a idler puller on the belt drive at about 130k miles. Many things happened. There was a loud screech, continuous,
and the volt gauge went to nothing, a red battery light came on, power steering took a recess, and the temp gauge began to spike. There was an exit, and I took it, and was able to avoid
overheating and got to a parking spot. The problem alerted me before the gauge.

The other time, the TPMS in my Toyota fired up, so I killed the radio, slowed down a good amount, and continued on to the next exit where I found a truck stop and plugged it. It was
nice to have ample warning before the tire starting thumping. I think I got there with about 10 psi left, and I parked at the air pump.
Old Mar 28, 2020 | 04:03 PM
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I always check my gauges when driving. Of course I don't stare at them, I look at the road, but while driving I will glance down to make sure all is OK.
Same here. I recall a time when a backseat passenger commented that he was watching me on a road trip and I was like clockwork: eyes forward on the road, look in the rearview mirror, glance down at the gauges, eyes back forward on the road, repeat. He apparently had never seen anyone actually pay attention to driving.
Old Mar 28, 2020 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Fun71
Same here. I recall a time when a backseat passenger commented that he was watching me on a road trip and I was like clockwork: eyes forward on the road, look in the rearview mirror, glance down at the gauges, eyes back forward on the road, repeat. He apparently had never seen anyone actually pay attention to driving.
About the same as flying IFR - except you're not looking out any windows - since there's nothing to see.
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