Saved-68 442
#41
I recently bought a number's matching '69 442 out of a cow pasture. It was intended as a parts car to convert my good 442 to a 4spd. Once I got it home it ended up being another project.
Looking forward to seeing overall pics, again nice find and props to you for saving it.
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#45
The wheel code is located by the valve stem hole on the outside. It might be very faint,not stamped well. You will probably need to use something to clean around the hole like steel wool or light grit sandpaper.
#47
I think you need a project manager to work on this while you earn more $$$ to pay the expenses? Someone with time on their hands....
Seriously Ted, it looks like a super nice project. I'm hoping the cowl tag rust is not an indication of what you'll find elsewhere. I'm wondering if there is anyone who can duplicate an original cowl tag to put onto the car, or whether that is even legal to do?
Judging by the VIN number your car looks like it was built just around a month earlier than the pic I posted earlier.
Seriously Ted, it looks like a super nice project. I'm hoping the cowl tag rust is not an indication of what you'll find elsewhere. I'm wondering if there is anyone who can duplicate an original cowl tag to put onto the car, or whether that is even legal to do?
Judging by the VIN number your car looks like it was built just around a month earlier than the pic I posted earlier.
#49
I checked the 68 assembly manual and it doesn't list a HF code for that year. It does list a HB code wheel for disc brakes. I looked @ a 69 manual and nothing listed there. I tried a 67 manual but it didn't have a wheel usage chart. I hope this helps.
#50
I think you need a project manager to work on this while you earn more $$$ to pay the expenses? Someone with time on their hands....
Seriously Ted, it looks like a super nice project. I'm hoping the cowl tag rust is not an indication of what you'll find elsewhere. I'm wondering if there is anyone who can duplicate an original cowl tag to put onto the car, or whether that is even legal to do?
Judging by the VIN number your car looks like it was built just around a month earlier than the pic I posted earlier.
Seriously Ted, it looks like a super nice project. I'm hoping the cowl tag rust is not an indication of what you'll find elsewhere. I'm wondering if there is anyone who can duplicate an original cowl tag to put onto the car, or whether that is even legal to do?
Judging by the VIN number your car looks like it was built just around a month earlier than the pic I posted earlier.
It is an awesome project,agreed! All numbers are matching up and the pic of the cowl looks worse than it is.
This will be a frame off resto,since the car is SO complete.
Have to do some shuffling in the shop to start the redo
No idea if it is legal to make another cowl tag. My feeling is do not mess with it, and try and preserve what is there.
Ted
#51
Hey sammy: I won't tell anyone, if you re-pop your cowl tag. My bodyman manufactured a new dash number to replace
the missing number for my '94 Dodge Shadow after it was recovered from being stolen in Detroit for a month.
The thieves tried to make it look like a '94 Plymouth Sundance.
It was found, just a couple of days before the insurance people were going to pay me out. Damn it!!!
It still cost the insurance company $7,500.00, to make it correct.
the missing number for my '94 Dodge Shadow after it was recovered from being stolen in Detroit for a month.
The thieves tried to make it look like a '94 Plymouth Sundance.
It was found, just a couple of days before the insurance people were going to pay me out. Damn it!!!
It still cost the insurance company $7,500.00, to make it correct.
Last edited by Jaybird; November 20th, 2012 at 06:45 PM.
#52
Man, if you lived a little closer i could SO need the help! I would bring you on board in an nano -second
It is an awesome project,agreed! All numbers are matching up and the pic of the cowl looks worse than it is.
This will be a frame off resto,since the car is SO complete.
Have to do some shuffling in the shop to start the redo
No idea if it is legal to make another cowl tag. My feeling is do not mess with it, and try and preserve what is there.
Ted
It is an awesome project,agreed! All numbers are matching up and the pic of the cowl looks worse than it is.
This will be a frame off resto,since the car is SO complete.
Have to do some shuffling in the shop to start the redo
No idea if it is legal to make another cowl tag. My feeling is do not mess with it, and try and preserve what is there.
Ted
http://www.trimtags.com/
#53
Absolutely nothing wrong for replacing a damaged/missing cowl tag and it's legal.
http://www.trimtags.com/
http://www.trimtags.com/
#54
#55
GM heritage 442
Vehicle Identification Number: 3448781111438. Car still has everything including
Vehicle: 1968 Oldsmobile 442. Floor mats, cool
Trim: 940 - Black Buckets
Paint: G- Willow Gold Metallic
Stripe: C - Provincial White.
Production Plant: Oshawa Ontario Canada
Production Date: January 10, 1968
Shipping Date: January 11, 1968
Model Number: 34487 - 442 - 2dr holiday coupe
Engine: 400 CID 325 HP 4bbl Rocket V8
Engine Number: 8243162
Dealer: Ross Wemp Motors Ltd., Rexdale Ont
Number Produced for sale in Canada (same model number only) 1,070
RPO Code Description
AS1 - SEAT BELTS: FRONT SHOULDER HARNESS
A81 - HEAD RESTRAINT - SEATBACK
B32 - MATS: FRONT FLOOR
B33 - MATS: REAR FLOOR
D55 - FRONT COMPARTMENT FLOOR CONSOLE
J52 - BRAKES: FRONT DISC
M40 - TRANSMISSION: 3-SPEED AUTOMATIC (THM 400)
N34 - STEERING WHEEL: CUSTOM SPORT
N40 - POWER STEERING
PW8 - TIRE: F70-14-4 PR - RED STRIPE
U29 - LAMP: COURTESY, INSTRUMENT PANEL
U63 - RADIO: AM PUSHBUTTON
U80 - AUXILIARY SPEAKER REAR
Z49 - MANDATORY CANADIAN BASE EQUIPMENT MODIFICATIONS
Ted
Vehicle: 1968 Oldsmobile 442. Floor mats, cool
Trim: 940 - Black Buckets
Paint: G- Willow Gold Metallic
Stripe: C - Provincial White.
Production Plant: Oshawa Ontario Canada
Production Date: January 10, 1968
Shipping Date: January 11, 1968
Model Number: 34487 - 442 - 2dr holiday coupe
Engine: 400 CID 325 HP 4bbl Rocket V8
Engine Number: 8243162
Dealer: Ross Wemp Motors Ltd., Rexdale Ont
Number Produced for sale in Canada (same model number only) 1,070
RPO Code Description
AS1 - SEAT BELTS: FRONT SHOULDER HARNESS
A81 - HEAD RESTRAINT - SEATBACK
B32 - MATS: FRONT FLOOR
B33 - MATS: REAR FLOOR
D55 - FRONT COMPARTMENT FLOOR CONSOLE
J52 - BRAKES: FRONT DISC
M40 - TRANSMISSION: 3-SPEED AUTOMATIC (THM 400)
N34 - STEERING WHEEL: CUSTOM SPORT
N40 - POWER STEERING
PW8 - TIRE: F70-14-4 PR - RED STRIPE
U29 - LAMP: COURTESY, INSTRUMENT PANEL
U63 - RADIO: AM PUSHBUTTON
U80 - AUXILIARY SPEAKER REAR
Z49 - MANDATORY CANADIAN BASE EQUIPMENT MODIFICATIONS
Ted
Last edited by sammy; November 21st, 2012 at 04:00 PM. Reason: Addition
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#58
#59
Unless your car had the W36 vertical fender stripe it would have come standard with a pinstripe that follows the moulding that goes across the top of the fenders, doors, and quarter panels and wrapping around under the vinyl top.
#61
Any pics of the pin striping that came with these cars?
My 442 did not have a vinyl roof.
Any idea on the two tone color scheme?
2 G's on the cowl tag, as Allan R pointed out, would mean this. Any ides on what this would have looked like would be great!
Thanks,
Ted
#62
I can see remnants of an old stripe,just under the front fender chrome. Would this stripe have been solid or two smaller ones?.
Any pics of the pin striping that came with these cars?
My 442 did not have a vinyl roof.
Any idea on the two tone color scheme?
2 G's on the cowl tag, as Allan R pointed out, would mean this. Any ides on what this would have looked like would be great!
Thanks,
Ted
Any pics of the pin striping that came with these cars?
My 442 did not have a vinyl roof.
Any idea on the two tone color scheme?
2 G's on the cowl tag, as Allan R pointed out, would mean this. Any ides on what this would have looked like would be great!
Thanks,
Ted
Here's a thread with info on the Canadian cowl tag codes:
http://72.22.90.30/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=77388&highlight=pin+striping
BTW, The pin striping was deleted on fender striped cars. Your car should have the Y74 option code too
Last edited by allyolds68; November 23rd, 2012 at 06:30 AM.
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#67
I dont know Oshawa cowl tags but I'd be willing to bet the GG simply means willow gold upper and lower colors. In other words, not two tone.
Here's a thread with info on the Canadian cowl tag codes:
http://72.22.90.30/phpBB2/viewtopic....t=pin+striping
BTW, The pin striping was deleted on fender striped cars. Your car should have the Y74 option code too
Here's a thread with info on the Canadian cowl tag codes:
http://72.22.90.30/phpBB2/viewtopic....t=pin+striping
BTW, The pin striping was deleted on fender striped cars. Your car should have the Y74 option code too
#68
Unless they did things different with Canadian built cars or changed them from 1966 cars,if a car had full wheel covers,the rims were painted black. Only the dog dish optioned cars had body color wheels.
#69
More history
Talked to original owner today! Some cool facts..
-bought the car when he was 18
-sold it to his Dad in 1970
-motor seized in 1971(oil pump)
-GM replaced entire engine on warranty!
-Dad owned until 1978.He sold it to a colleague, and I bought it from the colleague' s daughter.
-was driven by him until 1989 and parked.
The car came with spoke wheel covers, and he said he always wanted to put 'mags on it'
-1 pin stripe down each fender, white
-was only the one color, no two tone
He said others always wanted to drag him, but he could not afford the tires.
His nickname for it was the "sleeper"
The dealer where the car was purchased is still there, so they may have some imfo....
Ted
-bought the car when he was 18
-sold it to his Dad in 1970
-motor seized in 1971(oil pump)
-GM replaced entire engine on warranty!
-Dad owned until 1978.He sold it to a colleague, and I bought it from the colleague' s daughter.
-was driven by him until 1989 and parked.
The car came with spoke wheel covers, and he said he always wanted to put 'mags on it'
-1 pin stripe down each fender, white
-was only the one color, no two tone
He said others always wanted to drag him, but he could not afford the tires.
His nickname for it was the "sleeper"
The dealer where the car was purchased is still there, so they may have some imfo....
Ted
Last edited by sammy; November 23rd, 2012 at 02:14 PM. Reason: Change imfo
#70
"-GM replaced entire engine on warranty!"
What's all this then?
Did I not hear that it had the original engine previously?
Or was it the original TYPE engine but not VIN-stamped to match?
Or did the factory/dealer re-do the VIN stamp?
Got any pix of the block's VIN stamp?
What's all this then?
Did I not hear that it had the original engine previously?
Or was it the original TYPE engine but not VIN-stamped to match?
Or did the factory/dealer re-do the VIN stamp?
Got any pix of the block's VIN stamp?
#71
No, it's on ROP.
If you have the original pin stripe it wasn't a fender stripe car. They didn't do both because the pin stripe would pass through the fender stripe.
I don't see the W36 option code above so I'm not sure what you were referring to when you said the stripe was visible under the fender peak moulding. The first letter code before the GG is probably your pin stripe color.
If you have the original pin stripe it wasn't a fender stripe car. They didn't do both because the pin stripe would pass through the fender stripe.
I don't see the W36 option code above so I'm not sure what you were referring to when you said the stripe was visible under the fender peak moulding. The first letter code before the GG is probably your pin stripe color.
Last edited by allyolds68; November 23rd, 2012 at 05:02 PM.
#72
"-GM replaced entire engine on warranty!"
What's all this then?
Did I not hear that it had the original engine previously?
Or was it the original TYPE engine but not VIN-stamped to match?
Or did the factory/dealer re-do the VIN stamp?
Got any pix of the block's VIN stamp?
What's all this then?
Did I not hear that it had the original engine previously?
Or was it the original TYPE engine but not VIN-stamped to match?
Or did the factory/dealer re-do the VIN stamp?
Got any pix of the block's VIN stamp?
I can barely make out three digits of the vin on the engine pad.
The owner said the egine was replaced by GM 1971with another 400. The engine number that is on oil filler tube,on the POP and on the documents from George S at GM Heritage all match . Therefore, my next step is to call the dealer to see if they have any records.I think it is really cool I actually talked to the original owner! He sent me a pic of him standing beside the car in 1968. I will try to post...
If you have any other suggestions that would help in my search, that would be great.
Ted
#73
No, it's on ROP.
If you have the original pin stripe it wasn't a fender stripe car. They didn't do both because the pin stripe would pass through the fender stripe.
I don't see the W36 option code above so I'm not sure what you were referring to when you said the stripe was visible under the fender peak moulding. The first letter code before the GG is probably your pin stripe color.
If you have the original pin stripe it wasn't a fender stripe car. They didn't do both because the pin stripe would pass through the fender stripe.
I don't see the W36 option code above so I'm not sure what you were referring to when you said the stripe was visible under the fender peak moulding. The first letter code before the GG is probably your pin stripe color.
Ted
#75
try to load pics...something about a missing security tolken....
on pinion printed in yellow paint x143
on ring gear 3862691 14-43 GM
carrier normal no posi or lock-up
Ted
on pinion printed in yellow paint x143
on ring gear 3862691 14-43 GM
carrier normal no posi or lock-up
Ted
#79
With a one colour car the pin stripe would sweep back over top the side glass to the windshield. On a rallye stripe car the 442 numbers are lower and closer to the door. Check with John Green over in Janetville...he'll fill you in.